[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - J

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - June 11th, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 11 co-release coordinators: Ed Burns, Jared Anderson

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the May 28th, 2025 meeting as drafted - Approved

Agenda:

• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan [Ed Burns]
• EE 11 - Prioritized backlog · Jakarta EE11 TCK Release (github.com) and Jakarta EE11 TCK Release board  
• Ballot is now started
• Earliest closure would be Monday
• Retrospective for TCK project running on June 18th
• Retrospective for Platform project running on June 24th
• Do we want to have a Specification Committee retrospective?
• We could just take actions from the TCK and Platform retrospectives?
• We did do an “informal” one for EE10
• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 12 Release Plan [Jared Anderson]
• Project board: https://github.com/orgs/jakartaee/projects/17/views/1
• An update was provided in the newsletter: https://newsroom.eclipse.org/eclipse-newsletter/2025/may/jakarta-ee-12-ready-hit-ground-running 
• Tanja checked - Marketing have raised awareness of this article!
• OSSRH migration deadline is this month
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• Jakarta EE Namespace - Discuss whether the language we have around Jakarta package namespace requirements needs tightening up. Email.
• Who decides the namespace of a spec?
• Spec Committee can apply rules e.g. “must be jakarta.*”
• Is org.eclipse.microprofile allowed in Jakarta EE?
• Under the current JESP - arguable, depends how you read it
• Was the intention in the JESP text that it was meant to be a global rule? “everything must use jakarta.*”
• This is ambiguous, differing opinions from those who were present when this was decided
• Should we update the language in the JESP to make this clear?
• Consensus is yes we should clarify it, as it helps inform MicroProfile what their options are
• Proposed Resolution: Add to the JESP: “All specifications must use the jakarta.* namespace”
• Ivar Grimstad first
• Andrew Pielage seconded
• Will be put to the mailing list as a ballot
• Andrew Pielage to start it
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Ran out of time, not discussed…
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage
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