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Re: [jakarta.ee-spec] Defining Jakarta EE 12 Scope in Program Plan: Roadmap

100% in agreement. This is something I intend to discuss starting in the Steering Committee (which according to the Working Group charter is actually responsible for roadmaps: https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/jakarta_ee_charter.php) once the dust settles on the 2025 Program Plan and it's clearer that there is a recognizable outline for Jakarta EE 12 including delivery date, Java SE version support, and big ticket items (hopefully replacing most of EJB, modernized configuration, modernized Messaging, deprecations).

On 10/30/2024 2:29 PM, Kito Mann wrote:
This wasn't in Reza's document, but I'd like to also see a longer-term roadmap for Jakarta EE as part of Jakarta EE 12. Having some idea of what's going to happen in Jakarta EE 13, 14, and beyond (recognizing that it may change), is very important for the success of the project (and would avoid scenarios like this one, where there is no clear plan for the next release). Again, OpenJDK is a good example of this; it's clear what is being working on, although no one really knows exactly when/where a new feature will land. 

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On Oct 30, 2024 at 2:17 PM -0400, Kito Mann <kito.mann@xxxxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
Why does modernizing Messaging matter?

JMS has been one of the key specifications in Java EE. It was virtually synonymous with messaging in Java for a long time. ... In past years, Kafka has largely replaced JMS for Cloud Native messaging. ... Messaging must be urgently modernized to address these problems.

I've been wondering about this for quite some time. Is it possible to extend JMS so that it works for Kafka and perhaps cloud message services? That would make it very relevant again. It looks like Spring Messaging handles Kafka.

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