[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - O

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - October 16th, 2024

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson - Jared Anderson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 11 co-release coordinator: Ed Burns, Platform TCK co-lead Scott Stark.

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair)

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the October 2nd, 2024 meeting as drafted - Approved.

Agenda:

• Jakarta EE Spec Committee 2024-2025 election results are here. Net is no change to the current committee composition.
• Informational - Call for interest and discussion on the Jakarta Logging project proposal from Christian Grobmeier posted to jakarta.ee-spec is here also see the email from the EMO posted to  jakarta.ee-spec.committee
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• Check in on EE 11 Release Review ballots, see the spreadsheet for updates and notes.
• Platform + Web & Core Profiles remain
• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan [Ed Burns]
• EE 11 - Prioritized backlog · Jakarta EE11 TCK Release (github.com) and Jakarta EE11 TCK Release board  
• Proposal - Platform TCK Team did some estimating with the following changes:
• 1. Assume JPA GF Passing doubles due to resolution in appclient problem. 2. Change the EJB 30 to 2517, 2300. 3. For each row with Scott Stark assigned, change N to Y, make the GF passing 80%
• With these changes, we got to GF passing 84%.
• We propose to exclude the remaining 16%, produce a list of those excluded tests, and let the stakeholders decide.
• It is likely that the big portion of those excluded tests are appclient tests.

Emily volunteered that the 16% omission aspect would be not acceptable.

Ed suggested we would use the EE10 off-the-shelf TCK against GlassFish 8.0-JDK17 to supplement the new-style TCK. With a defined exclude list.

• EE 12 - An initial draft of the EE 12 milestones is here
• As the Platform Project begins the Jakarta EE 12 development cycle, they have requested (on jakarta.ee-spec.committee) for Progress Reviews for:
• Jakarta NoSQL 
• https://jakarta.ee/specifications/nosql/
• https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakarta.ee-spec/msg02795.html [Progress Review, 10.2022]
• Jakarta Config 
• https://jakarta.ee/specifications/config/
• https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakarta.ee-spec/msg02838.html [Plan Review, 01.2023]
• Jakarta RPC 
• https://jakarta.ee/specifications/rpc/
• https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakarta.ee-spec/msg02129.html [Creation Review, 01.2022]

The mentors for these projects are requested to let these projects know that they are required to provide input for a Progress Review and in particular to confirm (or revise) their scope and delivery timeline.

• Jakarta EE 11 release retrospective ongoing [All]  
• Review the open issues:
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which can are no longer relevant or have been dealt with
• Feel free to open new issues here which we will get to after the release is done. Add the “enhancement” label.

Issue #55 was discussed, a proposal was presented by Ed Bratt for consideration, 

• As resolved in the October 2nd, 2024 meeting, the Jakarta EE Specification Committee chair responsibility transitions from Paul Buck to Andrew Pielage. Andrew will chair the next meeting which is on October 30th, 2024.

Paul commented that it had been a true pleasure to serve as the committee chair and wished them and Andrew all the best for the continued success of Jakarta EE including the delivery of EE 11. Paul has served as chair of the Specification Committee since November 6, 2019.

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Andrew Pielage
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