Re: [jakarta.ee-spec] Proposal: Jakarta Logging

[Emily Jiang <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Christian,

Thanks for writing up the proposal!

As far as the Logging is concerned, there is no lack of logging frameworks and the communities have resistance to the convergence on any of the choices. MicroProfile community discussed whether to standardise Logging. After a lengthy conversation, the consensus was that there were many frameworks already. It is better to use Log4j or SLF4J or JUL. OpenTelemetry has Logs support together with Metrics and Tracing, which even avoided defining yet another logs API by instead using your own logs API. With this, I do not think this is something we should invest nor support.

Thanks,

Emily

On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 3:54 PM Christian Grobmeier via jakarta.ee-spec <jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have been reading all responses and seeing comments, but I could not see any questions about the proposal.
I also did not see anyone asking for a video Q&A.

I have added:

Otavio Santana
Maximillian Arruda
Raushan Kumar

as initial committers to the proposal.

When there are no questions, and nobody else wants to join as a committer, I will move forward with this proposal on Monday.

Kind regards,
Christian

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, at 11:26, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> Dear Jakarta EE Specification Committee,
>
> I propose "Jakarta Logging" for the Jakarta EE ecosystem.
> You can find the proposal here:
>
> https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/jakarta-logging
>
> This project seeks to streamline logging practices across the Java
> community by providing a standardized API. This approach aims to:
>
> - Enhancing security by minimizing dependencies and reducing risks as
> seen with the Log4shell vulnerability
> - Eliminate incompatibilities between logging frameworks
> - Remove vendor lock-in by encouraging adoption of the Jakarta Logging
> API
> - Simplify configuration, reducing the need for bridges
> - Motivate frameworks to leverage the Jakarta API rather than building
> their logging solution
>
> The proposal is backed by three members of the Log4j team who have
> extensive experience working on the framework full-time. We would love
> to bring our experiences to Jakarta EE and hope others will join us in
> this effort.
>
> If you are interested in becoming an initial committer or want to
> contribute in another way, please reach out to me by e-mail and I will
> happily add you to the proposal.
> In addition, if you have any questions, I will gladly address them by
> e-mail or during a Q&A call.
>
> I am looking forward to your feedback!
>
> Kind regards,
> Christian
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Thanks
Emily