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[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - May 5th, 2021

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - May 5th, 2021

Attendees (present in bold):


Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Dan Bandera - IBM - Kevin Sutter, Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara - Matt Gill

Scott Stark - Red Hat - Mark Little, Scott Marlow

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member - Martijn Verburg

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton - Enterprise Member 

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair)


Past business / action items:

  • Approval is requested for the meeting minutes from the April 21st meeting as drafted - Approved.


Agenda:

  • Jakarta EE charter Specification Committee Composition - The Committee elects a chair who reports to the Steering Committee. This chair is elected among the members of the Committee. They will serve from April 1 to March 31 of each calendar year, or until their successor is elected and qualified, or as otherwise provided for in this Charter.

    • Question: Are there any objections to the current Spec Committee chair continuing to serve the committee as their non-voting chair for another term? 

    • Item to remain open until the next meeting which is on May the 5th - Closed

Incumbent (non-voting) chair will continue to serve the committee as their chair for the period concluding on March 31, 2022.

Conclusion of a CQ will be voted on May 19 which is after the planned release date `May 14th` but before the marketing release date `May 25th`.

  • CQ are managed separately and if the CQ is denied, that will impact the EE 9.1 release.

  • Compatible Implementations (CI) to include in Release Review and Ratification step of specifications

    • Discussion of this topic in light of experiences with the Jakarta EE 9.1 

    • https://deploy-preview-372--jakartaee-specifications.netlify.app/specifications/webprofile/9.1/

    • What is the purpose of the implementation to ratify the specification? 

      • A. Constrain the set of CIs based on some criteria

        • Currently there is nothing prohibiting multiple builds / distributions of the same open source project to be included in the ratification 

        • What is the motivation to be included in the list of projects/products used for ratification? 

        • How to limit in a fair and neutral way? 

        • For derivatives of open source implementations, how many changes are required to determine the derivatives are distinct?

Request for the EMO to assess these questions and provide input

  • B. Instead of listing the CI’s, include a link to the certification request. Then no process change is required. Show the CCRs that were used. 

Kevin and Ivar to prepare a proposal

Options A. and B. to be revisited in May 19th Spec Committee meeting

  • Proposal for how to handle optional features in Jakarta EE specifications including Platform and Web Profile. The proposal is here.

Committee to continue to review, provide comments on the mailing list and in the document. To be explored further in the May 19th Spec Committee meeting

See the spreadsheet for updates and notes


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