[jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for Approval: Jakarta EE Specificatio

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The minutes for the August 6th Specification Committee call are below and are also available here. Please review and be ready for approval during our call on August 20th.

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - August 6th, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 12 co-release coordinators: Jared Anderson, James Perkins

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the July 23rd, 2025 meeting as drafted -  Approved

Agenda:

• EE 11 Update [Ed Burns]
• Retrospective update
• [Carry over from July 9th]: 
• Retrospective was done on the platform call (issue link, document link)
• Need to review retro link to figure out what may need action by spec committee vs others
• Web Profile TCK challenge
• https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/issues/2394
• Suggested solution #1: Fix it in EE 12 and close the challenge and use the workaround that we have been using for EE 8, 9, and 10.
• Suggested solution #2: Update the test to correctly handle Jakarta Authentication to be available as an API.
• Consensus on the call is to go with solution #2
• Any version of the TCK can still be used if this is an issue
• Any remaining business on EE11
• Jakarta EE 12 Update [Jared Anderson]
• Platform and Platform TCK to be potentially combined
• Platform calls on break until the 26th August
• Jakarta EE Namespace
• Discuss straw poll results/voting and actions
• MicroProfile currently on break
• Do we run the straw poll again?
• Which options?
• Just options 1 and 4?
• What would be the ballot criteria on what we do the final ballot on? Would it require a super-majority of the strategic members?
• Do we want to simply accept MicroProfile retaining its namespace for now, and finish defining the rules later?
• It may set a precedent
• With regards to exceptions: are they perpetual or temporary?
• E.g. if MicroProfile Config comes across and retains its org.eclipse.microprofile namespace, is this forevermore or would they need to “reapply” for an exception?
• Discussion to continue on next call
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Not discussed
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Not discussed
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Not discussed
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Not discussed
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Not discussed
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage
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