[jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for Approval: Jakarta EE Specificatio

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The minutes for the July 9^th Specification Committee call are below and are also available here. Please review and be ready for approval during our call on July 23rd.

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - July 9th, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 12 co-release coordinators: Jared Anderson, James Perkins

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the June 11th, 2025 meeting as drafted [rollover from June 25th] - approved
• Approval is requested for the minutes from the June 25th, 2025 meeting as drafted - approved

Agenda:

• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan [Ed Burns]
• EE 11 - Prioritized backlog · Jakarta EE11 TCK Release (github.com) and Jakarta EE11 TCK Release board  
• Retrospective was done on the platform call (issue link, document link)
• Do we need a retrospective in the spec committee for EE 11??
• Need to review retro link to figure out what may need action by spec committee vs others
• Feedback on calling for votes
• What topics can be voted on and what time to vote
• Make sure proper discussion and time to discuss is done before formal votes.  And voting must be on the agenda, no impromptu votes.
• If there is a quorum and it is on the agenda and discussed before then it may be possible to call a vote.
• Strawpolls are allowed on the fly, but are non-binding.
• Ballots must be done over 7-14 days and must be done off-line as defined by JESP.
• Catch up on the Jakarta EE 12 Release Plan [Jared Anderson]
• Project board: https://github.com/orgs/jakartaee/projects/17/views/1
• James Perkins is co-coordinator for EE 12
• Emily goes over discussion of microprofile move to Jakarta
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• Jakarta EE Namespace - Discuss whether the language we have around Jakarta package namespace requirements needs tightening up. Email.
• Discuss and potentially agree a statement of intent (don’t necessarily update the JESP).
• Do we want Jakarta to be a place that well established specs can find a home for future development?
• This is not a technical discussion.  Instead this is about making it easy and attractive to move well established specifications to Jakarta without major breaking changes.
• Some find it is more cluttered to have additional namespaces for jakarta users
• Should we kick off a strawpoll for the different options?
• Emily and Tom will work on writing up a strawpoll to gauge the group's opinions.
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage
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