[jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Review for approval: Jakarta EE Specificatio

[Paul Buck <paul.buck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The minutes for the October 6th Specification Committee call are below and are also available here. Please review and be ready for approval during our call on October 20th.

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - October 6th, 2021 [1600 UTC]

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Kevin Sutter - IBM - Tom Watson, Emily Jiang

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara

Scott Stark - Red Hat - Mark Little, Scott Marlow

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member - Martijn Verburg

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton - Enterprise Member 

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Paul Buck (chair), Wayne Beaton

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the meeting minutes from the September 22nd meeting as drafted - Approved.

Agenda:

• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of individual specs progress through the JESP

• Jakarta EE 10 Plan Review - Candidate specifications

• PRs https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pulls

• Project Board https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/projects/1

• Release Plan https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee10/JakartaEE10ReleasePlan

• Wiki https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/wiki/JakartaEE10

• Mentors will be assigned for the Release Reviews, based on assignments from Plan Reviews

• How to handle updates for specs that will only update their API (Module Info) like Bean Validation? 

• Proposal is to do a Service Release (provided there are no other changes)

• Something like the signature (module info) test could do a verification step, Platform Project to confirm

• Agreed that we do not need the full ceremony of a Release Review - Updated Spec & TCK, CI and passed TCK results

• Reference - https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/741 

• Scheduling of future meetings

• Ratify proposal made in the September 22nd call to revert the time for all Specification Committee calls back to 16:00 UTC, previously it was decided to alternate the start time of the call between 13:00 UTC and 16:00 UTC to increase participation from Asian members, it was commented that participation in the 13:00 calls is lower and in particular we miss the reps from the US west coast

• Are there any objections? No objections. Call will revert back to 16:00 UTC on a biweekly basis.

• Jakarta EE Spec Committee input to the 2022 Program Plan on the topic of 

• Release Simplification

• Initiatives can and will be organic and situational… this is BAU

• Current focus is on the automation POC which is ongoing

• TCK refactoring is underway and will continue in 2022

• Implementation Neutrality

• Progress was made in 9.1, and the Spec Committee’s resolution to not add and new optional features in EE 10

• What about the existing optional features and providing for the sum of the implementations to satisfy the requirement to test all optional features?

• A proof point is when other CI’s can be used for ratification of the Platform or Web Profile spec besides Glassfish 

• Reminder October 19th is the Jakarta EE working group (members) call, and the week on October 13th is the community-wide call.

• 13th call - Release 10 update or progress on individual specifications

• 19th call’s focus Program Plan, request working group input on activities for 2022

• Suggestion for future committee seat elections, publish the results broadly and include a reminder that more candidates is a good thing
  

• Jakarta Config received the exception to use the CPL option, the Spec Committee Creation review ballot can be re-initiated with project