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Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Formal Proposal and Public vote record for Jakarta NoSQL

Jakarta NoSQL is a specification project.

It's designated as such in the project metadata in the PMI. At present, we don't have a means of showing this. I'll get the webdev team to display the field that indicates the project's nature as a specification project and create a view to display the specification projects.

Wayne

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 5:04 PM Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David,
I don't think we need to re-do the NoSQL project.  Maybe the process wasn't perfect, but it's done.
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.nosql

The one thing I'm not clear on is whether this NoSQL project is a Specification Project or a normal Development Project.  We need some mechanism to clearly and easily differentiate that.  So, if NoSQL is not provisioned as a Specification Project, then maybe we could it through the restructuring process like we're doing with the rest of the Jakarta projects that contain specifications.

But, if it's already a Specification Project, then I'd say we could just wait until the next project idea comes along to test the processes.

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From:        David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta specification committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        06/14/2019 05:04 PM
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Formal Proposal and Public vote record        for Jakarta NoSQL
Sent by:        jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx




I'm fine we table even this discussion till after Jakarta EE 8.

The simple statement is since we didn't really have a formal proposal for NoSQL and a formal vote with a public record, we don't really have anything to point out we say "this is how we work."  Bill called this out very early and recommended we go back and follow the formal process when we had it.

Do we want to do this at some point?  Specifically the two assets the exercise would give us:

 - A template on how to propose projects -- initiating a Creation Review
 - A format to follow for publishing the results of a Creation Review

Again, I'm fine if we push this to October.  It would be nice to have a formal proposal and formal vote on record, even if after the fact.  Something like this:

 - proposal https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=382#2
 - vote results https://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=6061

Our process could be as simple as a github issue filed in a specific "jesp" repo or "specification-committe" repo.  Something a little better than meeting minutes, but not quite as fancy as writing new software.

If we maintained a repo with a curated list of JESPs in any state, we could potentially facilitate state changes (the different reviews we do), but having the project in question submit a PR.  We do the review and merge the PR or not based on our vote.

This is me brainstorming.  Open to other ideas.  I'll see if I can create a sample repo that might be in the format we could accept.


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