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Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Default fourteen day ballots

I've updated the document to reflect a default seven (7) days review.

A ballot is used to seek Specification Committee approval. Unless otherwise stated in this process (or a Working Group-specific derivative of this process), the default period for all Specification Committee ballots is seven (7) days. During that time, any member of a Specification Committee may request that the period be extended to thirty (30) days.
 
A Specification Committee may opt to increase the length of the ballot period, but may not—under any circumstances—reduce any review period to fewer than seven (7) days.

I believe that I've addressed the other "clean up" issues highlighted during our call.

I've received some good feedback regarding other ways that we might improve the process; I'd like to defer them, and have created some issues to track those ideas.

In order to avoid making the task any more complex, I ask that you review the document with the intent of evolving the current set of changes to the point where you are prepared to accept them. Let's highlight new issues, but (again) let's defer any new changes that are not critical.

The document is here.

The pull request/diff is here.

You'll note that I changed two of the images to make them more consistent in appearance with the style we use in other images. They differ only in the use of colour (and they're now SVGs not PNGs).

I am deal with input on the pull request or on this thread. Your call.

Thanks,

Wayne

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 3:44 PM Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think what Kevin suggests would be fine.  (Although I'll have to explain to Oracle legal why this is still ok for Jakarta EE since the JESP will specify 14 days.)

The only reason I can see to keep 14 days in the EFSP is if the Eclipse Foundation believes 14 days is the best choice and wants to strongly encourage derivatives of this process to use 14 days.

Kevin Sutter wrote on 6/12/19 11:34 AM:
Actually, Wayne, I think it just got worse...  :-)  Now it is saying that the default and minimum review period is 14 days *unless* you have a Working Group derivative of the process.  I have to go back to my initial assertion -- what was wrong with the original wording of the 7 day minimum (other than the week vs 7 days thing)?  I don't want to make the EFSP more restrictive.  Let the derivatives make it more restrictive (like the JESP), not the other way around.

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From:        Wayne Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta specification committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        06/12/2019 12:39 PM
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Default fourteen day ballots
Sent by:        jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx




I tweaked the wording.

Specifically, I removed "No ballot period may be shorter than seven (7) days." sentence and added what I think is a clarification to the final sentence (which I believe is just restating the now-removed sentence).
 

A ballot is used to seek Specification Committee approval. Unless otherwise stated in this process (or a Working Group-specific derivative of this process), the default period for all Specification Committee ballots is fourteen (14) days. During that time, any member of a Specification Committee may request that the period be extended to thirty (30) days. A Specification Committee may opt (via a Working Group-specific derivative of this process or exception) to change the length of a ballot period, but may not--under any circumstances--reduce any review period to fewer than seven (7) days.


 
I think that this makes the intention clearer: unless otherwise specified, ballots are fourteen days long; and when otherwise specified, that ballot cannot be fewer than seven days long.

Does this work?

Wayne


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