Done!
Tanja
On 2018-12-06 1:17 p.m., David Blevins
wrote:
I can share individual files, but not folders.
Can someone on the Eclipse side add Kevin to the top level
"Jakarta EE Specification Committee" team drive? Or at least to
the TCK Process folder I created? Tom Snyder <tom.t.snyder@xxxxxxxxx> also needs
access.
I also cannot delete files, so if someone can delete
this one that'd be appreciated. I didn't end up needing it:
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I1-8f6pQUyIpnA6TpNH0bK69Gp-Qb_i7PeCZipfrOJY/edit
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David Blevins
310-633-3852
David,
I need access
to the doc link you provided
(kwsutter@xxxxxxxxx).
Thanks!
I appreciate
the "homework"
and prep work for next week's call. But, there are
several other
participants on the Spec call familiar with the TCK
processes. IBM
is well versed on this topic and I, personally, have
been directly involved
in the CTS testing since J2EE 1.4. Red Hat is also
very much involved
with the CTS process, as well as Fujitsu. So, I think
we have several
"parents" to choose from... :-)
Just wanted to
clarify that I think
we have plenty of varied experience on the Spec
Committee to produce the
right solution without having to "choose sides".
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Java EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx
Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
From:
David
Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
Jakarta
specification
committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
12/05/2018
05:35 PM
Subject:
[jakarta.ee-spec.committee]
Understanding the Current Specification Process
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jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
The current status
of basically only Bill and I being
deeply familiar with the TCK process I think is a
major hinderance. I
think if we were to venture forward in the current
state, it would result
in a conversation primarily between Bill and I and
you all feeling like
you had to pick between your favorite parent. I
like Bill far too
much for that. You all need your own experience or
as close to it
as you can get.
In that vein I've attempted to put together a crash
course of actual TCK
challenges, exclude lists, and file names from
Apache's and my own experience
with the certification process.
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CAnAYCtafDuf_s4DQhUZEIPO0GBOaT48X74N8LUQh-w/edit#
I ask you all to spend time reviewing the material
in advance of next week's
call. We can spend some time discussing it in more
detail when we're
together.
Once we all have at least some virtual experience
with real details and
real challenges, we can begin to form our own
opinions and make true progress.
I think if we start defining a process now, we'd be
starting "in
the middle" and would not be able to resolve with
confidence or in
any reasonable time.
This is still just a portion of the story. CDI and
Bean Validation
have the same concepts but implemented entirely
differently. They
also have their own document on how they prefer
their process to work.
MicroProfile also has it's own process, less
defined than CDI, but
still third generation in many ways.
So our and your homework will be:
1. Understand the Sun/Oracle TCK process and
materials
2. Understand the CDI/Bean Validation TCK process
and materials
3. Understand the MicroProfile TCK process and
materials
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David Blevins
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http://www.tomitribe.com
310-633-3852
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