Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Feedback on JNoSQL proposal

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

This actually did come up during one of
our Spec Committee meetings...  The issue was that there will not
be as many opportunities for the Working Group to get familiar with the
various Specifications.  There will be the Creation Review and at
least one Milestone Review before a potential Final Review.  So, if
a Working Group member is not participating in a Specification, it might
make it more difficult to determine a proper voting stance.  With
the JCP process, there were several interim reviews (some informal, some
voting) that gave several opportunities to get onboard and understand the
JSR.  Our new Eclipse process is a little leaner.  Granted, you
can take the stand that if you snooze, you lose.  That's fine.  I
just wanted to see if we needed more explicit indication whether Working
Group members are interested in a Specification Project at Creation Review
time.

(In a separate thread, Mike has indicated
this was only a suggestion...)

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From:      
 Mark Little <mlittle@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:      
 Jakarta specification
committee <jakarta.ee-spec.committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:      
 10/19/2018 03:14 PM
Subject:    
   Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee]
Feedback on JNoSQL proposal
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   jakarta.ee-spec.committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Agreed. That's never been the case in the JCP and
it's never been the
case in any standards body I know, e.g., consider if OASIS required
every member to get involved in every specification there.

Mark.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:41 AM Richard Monson-Haefel
<rmonson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I don't think it was required that every Working Group member have
a committer or representative on every project.  Obviously, the more
the better but if your organization doesn't have expertise or interest
in the spec, why put resources on it?
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>
>> I've heard from several people that it's not clear from the proposal
that this is special "Specification Project".  Yes, you
can read the description and get that idea.  But, since the Specification
Projects have a slightly different process, we should somehow indicate
that these are different from a normal EDP Project.
>>
>> And, we've talked in our Committee meetings that each Working
Group member should have a participant on each Specification Project.  (Sorry,
can't remember if that was a requirement or just a suggestion.)  But,
looking at the initial committer list on the Project Proposal, I don't
see anyone signed up except for Tomitribe.  I am in the process of
lining up one or two members from IBM.  But, since this is a Specification
Project, do we need to poll the Working Group members to get an initial
committer before this is ready for a Creation Review?
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> Kevin Sutter
>> STSM, MicroProfile and Java EE architect
>> e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
>> phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
>> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
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