Re: [jakarta.ee-spec.committee] Interaction Between Code-First and Speci

[Mark Little <mlittle@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I think so too and importantly so does the community. It's vitally
important we bring a vibrant community to Jakarta EE and whilst I'm
not going to suggest that the MicroProfile way of doing this is the
best it has kind of evolved in precisely the same way we're talking
about here for specs: problem statement, likeminded people hacking
away at options and then we have what we have today and can even
continue to evolve it by community participation. Depending how you
look at it you could see this as "very meta" or recursive ;)

Mark.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:33 PM, Richard Monson-Haefel
<rmonson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> +1.  I’m pretty sure this is how it’s been done with MicroProfile and that
> effort seems to have moved along really well.
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:50 AM Mark Little <mlittle@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Why does that have to be done through a specification though? Why couldn’t
>> it be done through a discussion between likeminded individuals, groups or
>> vendors who share the same problem, have different proposed solutions, go
>> away and try them, then come back at some time (perhaps pre-determined) to
>> share their experiences and move forward to standardise what works? Now that
>> problem statement and the range or proposed solutions should be documented
>> somewhere and I suppose we could call it an “alpha release of the
>> specification” or maybe just on a wiki or mailing list or google doc or
>> something else.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>> On 31 May 2018, at 07:46, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> While there will always be product-specific features, some of which might
>> make
>> their way into future versions of the specification, wouldn't it also be
>> nice if
>> multiple independent implementations of new functionality could be created
>> simultaneously to experiment with the new features in different contexts
>> and
>> with different customers?  I just don't see how to do that without having
>> some
>> sort of specification being developed at the same time as the
>> implementations.
>>
>>
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