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This is precisely what we’re attempting to do with MicroProfile too and have said there from the start: no specs get developed without real world experience *somewhere*.
Mark.
My suggestion is that proposals for new functionality in the specifications and APIs must be demonstrated with code somewhere (either by a vendor outside the Jakarta EE WG or as a skunk-works project under the Jakarta EE WG) and reviewed before being considered for addition to the specification. If it works and everyone thinks it makes sense to add it to the specification, then its added.
The demonstration might be just a sampling of code or maybe someone did a full implementation integrated with their Jakarta EE product. Either way, code will have been written and demonstrated to work before it is even considered for inclusion in a specification update.
Once its specified and the TCKs are written than it can be included in implementations.
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