Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [ADD Platform Tuesday Call recordings- past &

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Quick follow-up...
Ivar and I are going to bring up the topic of the github pages organization
at tomorrow's PMC call.  We have some ideas on how to keep these pages
better organized.  We've decided to focus on the parts that we have
some control over versus attempting to fix the whole ecosystem...  Thanks.

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



From:
       "Kevin
Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       Jakarta
EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
       06/01/2020
09:18
Subject:
       [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [ADD Platform Tuesday Call recordings- past
& future] to the Youtube channel #787
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by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Hi Amelia,
Every Project within Jakarta EE can have their own set of github pages.
 The Platform project has their github pages:  https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/

Not every project is using this feature, but the Platform project has been.
 On this page, you can find references related to the Platform Specification
Project and it's deliverables (including a link to the minutes page).

Point being is that we are not trying to hide this information.  But,
I agree it may not be intuitive to find.  And, actually this is a
known issue across the wider Jakarta EE ecosystem.  We have many areas
to house information (jakarta.ee, github repos, github pages, wikis, specifications
repo, etc) and sometimes it's not the easiest to find the information you
are looking for.  This is probably a bigger issue that needs some
oversight to resolve over the whole project, not just the Platform piece
of it.  This question/issue should probably be discussed at the Steering
Group level to help give some focus.

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



From:        Amelia
Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta
EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        05/29/2020
17:32
Subject:        [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [ADD Platform Tuesday Call recordings- past
& future] to the Youtube channel #787
Sent by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Kevin, Ivar and Werner 

Thanks for looping in to provide your personal feedback. 

Then, can this website or page be added to the Jakarta EE website? 
https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/minutes/minutes.html
 
No where in the websiteI
locate those minutes.  For that matter, as it is relevant to the Jakarta
website friendly navigation, can we also add the Community Call minutes?
 I won't create the 2 git issues with such a request until I understand
why/where/how we are planning to feed the data to not only today's active
Jakartees but future ones. 

Mindful that I had to ask my team for the exact link of the Platform minutes
b/c as a non-technical Jakartee, I had no clue where they are housed. 

Wishing everyone a good wknd, thanks for the exchanges thus far. 

Amelia Eiras 
twitter.com/ameliaeiras
Tribe:http://tomitribe.com     https://tribestream.io  
OSS: http://microprofile.io    https://jakarta.ee


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:05 AM Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I tend to agree with your assessment, Werner.  The members of the
Platform Project will decide whether to record their meetings.  So
far, it has not been requested by those participating.  In my particular
case, if I can't attend any meeting, I consult the minutes for the summary.
 If I didn't have time to attend the meeting, I probably don't have
the time to view a recording.

In the case of the Platform calls, Ivar and I have done a pretty good job
of keeping the minutes up-to-date during the meeting.  Others on the
call have also participated in keeping the minutes -- Bill did an outstanding
job one week for a "non-meeting".  We also post the minutes
via PRs asking for reviews and approvals before they are logged.  So,
we feel the minutes have been pretty accurate without the need for a recording.
 My two cents worth...

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx   Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



From:        Werner
Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta
EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        05/29/2020
04:42
Subject:        [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [ADD Platform Tuesday Call recordings- past
& future] to the Youtube channel #787
Sent by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Why would anybody want to watch every single meeting? 
Are the JCP EC Meetings (except the one or two per year that are public)
recorded...?

I would not be against it if there really was such high demand other than
Amelia, but I am skeptical about the demand.
Is it possible to analyze the access numbers in Google Docs how many times
the minutes are viewed, or does Google Docs not offer such numbers? Because
why would those who don't even bother to read the minutes want to watch
a video of the call?

Werner

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:12 PM Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thursday Jakartees,

Direct request given latest information (on ticket below) about the Tuesdays 8am-9am PDT weekly Platform calls to be recorded &added to the Youtube channel.

Background:
latest direct feedback for Ivar and considerations about current process that requires this community feedback, ticket HERE


Amelia Eiras
twitter.com/ameliaeiras
Tribe:http://tomitribe.com     https://tribestream.io 
OSS: http://microprofile.io    https://jakarta.ee

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