Well I'm afraid if his company wants more influence they have to pay for it.
I was always very vocal about the overwhelming number of WGs at Eclipse, also a compelling argument for having just ONE WG for Jakarta EE and Microprofile (otherwise companies like his would have to pay even more ;-) but the general idea of membership supporting an open community is the only way that can survive.
Did you look at CNCF where I was told, unlike Eclipse or (at least there was one) Javaland conferences you're not able to attend the CN4J day unless you also buy a full pass for Kubecon. :-(
Not only small businesses like my own neither have the time nor money to lose client work for a day or more AND having to purchase a full week or day pass to Kubecon just to attend a Java or Microprofile event. Guess both Romaine's company or others including your own (even more if you are independent or work in a small firm) would have the same problem.
And I doubt, Adam Bien would let an Asylum seeker with a degree in IT who was stranded in Munich attend his Airhacks for free so he or she could learn Jakarta EE from a second hand source? ;-)
Regards,
Werner
Talked with him.
Romain now works for a company which has signed up on a low level Eclipse membership since ages.
But their 'tier' doesn't qualify for having someone work on an EG or working group it seems.
So EF seemingly asked his company management to 'upgrade' their account and pay FU****NG 10k just for Romain to be able to continue to contribute. And then they suspended all his Eclipse committership alltogether.
Hell, this is SOOO WRONG on soo many levels. We should be freaking happy to have people like Romain continue to contribute to and support Jakarta EE. But instead his company gets ripped off?
I mean, this is really odd. This is pure pay to play and a shame for calling itself Open Source!
Dear Eclipse leadership. JakartaEE needs people like Romain. JakartaEE needs other OSS foundations, JakartaEE actually needs the all the community you can get!
JakartaEE is not a standard Eclipse project - don't wreck it!
LieGrue,
strub
> Am 28.01.2020 um 22:25 schrieb Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> What actually was the trigger for Romain's statement?
> -Markus
>
>
> Von: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Januar 2020 21:04
> An: Jakarta EE community discussions
> Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter
>
> Romain is entitled to his opinion, but I don't agree with it.
>
> I belong to and have participated in both foundations -- Eclipse and Apache. Yes, they are different. They both have quirks. But, I do not agree with posting something like this and asking for a discussion. At least not on the Jakarta EE Community forum. We should focus on Jakarta EE issues and questions, and not opinions about the Eclipse Foundation. My two cents worth...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
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> STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
> e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
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>
>
> From: Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Jakarta EE Community <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 01/28/2020 13:31
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter
> Sent by: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Hello from Las Vegas Jakartees,
>
> with reference to this Tweet
>
> <image001.png>
> If Romain's statements are true, why are they true?
>
> Amelia Eiras
> twitter.com/ameliaeiras
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