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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [MP Announcement] Working Group Discussion with technical focus on 1/27 @11am-12pm PDT
Hello Mrs. Eiras,

If you are looking for contributors, I suggest the following:

1. Mark Issues with labels "good first issue" and/or "help wanted".
2. Use micro-tasking:
    - this means small tasks of max 1-2h work
    - if the task requires more than 1-2h work, work with TODOs -- author of the PR leaves TODOs
      in the code which are subsequently turned into Github Issues as future tasks (this process can be automated)
3. Make sure the code is more Object-Oriented, work more with Java Interfaces (it helps microtasking)
4. Have more discipline and communicate more via Github Issue comments rather than meetings and calls.

I've worked for 2-3 years with a distributed team which practiced the above points and we did not have a single
meeting or call. It took me 1 year (!) to realize that the PM was a chatbot.

I'm on this mailing list since a few years already and most mails I see are either marketing or invitations to online meetings/talks,
I strongly believe you need a better model for Distributed development.

Best regards,
Mihai

On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 00:46, Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Title says 27, yet it is always Tuesdays- for this is 28. My apologies to spam with correction. 

Also, any desire to conduct or schedule "Private conversations" about the MP Working Group future that "hopes" to reach consensus via that medium is weak and the very worst form of entitlement I hope not to even see in this community.   Even worse, if get private forwards with such actions i will forward to this forum and MP forum.  

If you, Jakartee expect to get your voice heard by private means, do think again. That is not Open Source and that is not MicroProfile with almost 4yrs in the making roots. 




On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:37 PM Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hola Jakartees, 

This is part of a volunteered task from the MP Community call on 1/21 reaching out to those of you interested in the creation of MicroProfile WorkingGroup that fixes the IP issues.  Below links give access to the agenda minutes, zoom link, etc: 
  • MicroProfile Community Meeting Minutes are public and welcome anyone attending part-take. 
  • Tuesdays 11am-12pm PDT zoom hangouts LINK
  • AND - the virtual twitter media MP bi-weekly reminders link  
  • MP youtube link has now 1 & 1/3 hrs of 2 calls that solely focus on the MPWG discussion
  • Forum thread link  with 147 posts by 26 authors & counting
I have said it before and I will repeat it again:  ignorance is a choice as so is standing on the side lines.  
OSS in our Community cheapens each time a DOER owns the:  "let's wait & see" or "I won't be affected".  Awaiting in the sidelines- neutral mentality doesn't exist for those of us who live it and believe in the discipline of proactive/ transparent betterment,  that is a beautiful and fun characteristic of the MicroProfile ecosystem.  

Join the conversation and REMEMBER TO:
  • USE: "I" statements 
  • SHARE/ANSWER: What do I care about?
  • AVOID statements like: "we" or "universal" statements that generalize stuff
  • Owning our words and judgements as our own is necessary to avoid blurring others' points of view
Cheers, 
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