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Re: [ide-dev] what about doing less?

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:20:00AM +0200, Mickael Istria wrote:
On 10/23/2013 09:38 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
Dart editor "solves" it by removing anything but Dart required dependencies.
FWIW, It's already what Tycho does with tycho-surefire-plugin by default: it generates the minimal application for a test to run. So we don't need anything new to have something similar working.

Not following why that is relevant ?
Tycho's minimal application is rarely actually usable by users because
it doesn't take into account add-ons that aren't related to your specific tests.

I think for this specific issue (performance) putting together plan/resources to revive or reimplement focus on performance would help alot.
Performance tests by themselves are generally a bit tricky to analyze, but coupling them with a profiler (yourkit-maven-plugin) could make them much more relevant.

Eclipse already have or at least had plenty of performance tests which junit output usecase specific performance numbers instead of more generic profiler output.

There were tests for "opening workspace", "load of eclipse", import of project etc. which
were then tracked to not have to big of a % difference over time.

Not saying having easy access to profiler data but doing it generically will probably
not solve end-user problem faster IMO.


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