[hyades-dev] Planning Group Notes for May 3rd, 2004

[Melanie.Woods@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

1) Apologies etc.
	Attending were
	Mike Norman, Scapa
	Tyler Thessin, Intel 
	Gian Franco Bonini, SAP
	Serge Lucio, IBM

	Observing were
	Rob Sinclair, IBM
	Melanie Woods, Scapa

2) Minutes and matters arising
Nothing to report.

3) PMC and Eclipse interaction
- Preliminary talks have been held with a company that is in the process 
of joining Eclipse and is interested in participating in the Hyades 
project. The company has indicated that it wants to put resource into 
its involvement and to enhancing and advancing Hyades. Discussion 
regarding whether the company would be able to attend the upcoming face 
to face meeting. It was agreed that an invitation could be made if the 
company's Eclipse membership has been concluded.
- Another Eclipse member that has expressed interest in the past 
regarding participating in Hyades, Mercury, could also be invited to 
join the face to face meeting. It should be stressed that the face to 
face meeting is focused on Hyades planning, and not planning individual 
members' integration with Hyades.
- A second call will take place on Tuesday, 4th May, with the aim of 
drafting a defined development process document. Rob, Alex Nolan (Scapa) 
and Karla Callaghan (Intel) will participate in this call.
ACTION - Tyler to document the PMC charter discussions held to date for 
review at next week's call.
ACTION - Rob to contact Alex Nolan (Scapa) and Karla Callaghan (Intel) 
to discuss development process and draft the defined development process 
document.
ACTION - Tyler to check on current Eclipse membership status of company 
interested in participating in the Hyades project.

4) Operation of the current plan
- Defect fixing continues with the 2 week extension to the M9 release 
phase. Trying to fit in as many fixes as possible in this timeframe.
- It is unlikely that the Fedora Linux support will block the release, 
as the issue relates to unsupported versions. Checking with originator 
of the bug to confirm that this is no longer a problem.
- Antony Miguel (Scapa) has been working on creating a number of manual 
test suites as plug-ins for Hyades.
- It was agreed that we need to draft our positioning statement on U2TP 
support in Hyades as quickly as possible, as the OMG are ready to make 
U2TP generally available as a new standard.
ACTION - Mike, Melanie to draft marketing position statement quickly and 
distribute on hyades-dev.
 
5) Technical forward plan
- Mike drafted an agenda for the upcoming face to face meeting and 
distributed it to the planning group. No objections or amendments tabled 
during the meeting. Mike will email a request for additional 
requirements suggestions to hyades-dev, so that these can be discussed 
at the face to face meeting.
- No issues uncovered as yet regarding the use of Hyades as the PMC 
Charter level name. Mike has made Skip aware of the plans, and Sharon 
(Intel) is also now aware.
- Mike proposed that part of the discussions will include the interim 
processes that are to be followed until the new PMC charter is given 
Eclipse board approval. These interim processes will probably align with 
the current working processes.
ACTION - Mike to contact Dave Thomson regarding Eclipse post 3.0 plans.
ACTION - Mike to send email to hyades-dev to request additional 
requirements suggestions.

6) Internal and external communication
- Serge has received feedback from Mike on his documents, and will 
distribute updated documents to the group.
- Scapa will participate in the Eclipse Technology eXchange (eTX) 
reception at the ICSE 2004 event in Edinburgh 
(http://conferences.iee.org/icse2004/etx.htm) on May 27th at the 
Edinburgh International Conference Centre. Scapa will not be able to 
attend a similar poster reception being held at ECOOP in Oslo (June 
15th). Other members may want to consider this opportunity. Details of 
any poster sessions for the ECOOP event in Oslo need to be submitted 
online (http://cyberchair.acm.org/ecoop/) by May 7th.
- A request for all available non-company biased Hyades-related 
materials was sent at the end of last week. No response as yet.
- Question was raised regarding PR activities surrounding the release of 
Eclipse 3.0. No information available. Melanie to discuss this with 
Eclipse Marketing Committee on Tuesday, May 4th and advise planning 
group of any opportunities to include Hyades information in the overall 
3.0 PR materials. The new end-user features that we might want to 
include in the Eclipse 3.0 press release are: HTTP load test sample 
tool, integrated views from log viewers, launch configuration and 
integration between testing and profiling, profiling, probe kits and 
method code coverage.
ACTION - Melanie to organise participation in the Eclipse Technology 
eXchange (eTX) reception.
ACTION - Melanie to pursue PR opportunities for Hyades within the scope 
of any planned Eclipse 3.0 PR activities.

7) AOB
- Tyler raised the suggestion that the new PMC meeting should be 
separated from the current planning group meeting for discussion. It was 
agreed that the PMC meeting should follow on from the planning group 
meeting on Mondays at or around the proposed time of 9.30am PST / 
12.30pm EST / 5.30pm GMT / 6.30pm CET, and that business related to the 
formation of the PMC which hitherto had been discussed in the Hyades 
meeting would be postponed to the PMC meeting (i.e. standing agenda item 

2 would be taken last and would form the basis of the PMC meeting). 
Melanie will be available to take minutes for both meetings.

Next meeting: Monday, 10th May 2004 - 6pm CET / 5pm GMT / 12pm EST / 9am 
PST