Re: [hyades-dev] U2TP Compliance of 3.0 driver

[Serge Lucio <slucio@xxxxxxxxxx>]

First, the U2TP should be finally adopted
next week at the OMG meeting in St. Louis, MO. At that point the UML 2.0
Testing Profile will be an OMG standard. A Revision Task Force will be
created at the same time to overlook the maintenance of the standard until
at least the UML 2.0 is adopted as a standard later this year.

With respect to Hyades, I think we should
do our best to re-align the terminology to the UML 2.0 Testing Profile,
at least on the user interface. In addition to that, I've raised a couple
of times the mapping issues we have with our manual and HTTP samples: They
are somewhat misleading for someone trying to understand how the U2TP should
be used to "model" tests. I guess we should do our best effort
to re-align, but I've yet to find people ready to invest time and energy
in doing so.

Thanks, Serge.

Serge Lucio
Sr. Product Manager, Automated Software Quality
Rational CTO Team 
IBM Software Group
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Mike Norman <Michael.Norman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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04/19/2004 02:15 PM

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Harm,

Overall I think the position is as you state, but the non-final aspect
relates mainly to the behavioural piece, not things like test case/suite/context
which are I think more stable, and there are many fewer people affected
if we change now than if we make breaking changes post 3.0 when we have
more widespread adoption. 

Can we have a view from Serge?

Harm Sluiman wrote:

I believe that Hyades declared it would assess becoming U2TP compliant
once 2 constraints where met. At one time we thought that would be in this
time frame. 

1. UML2 and the U2TP proposals were actually ratified and fully approved
at OMG. My understanding is that this is close but not yet the case.

2. We have access to the UML2 eclipse project in order to exploit it as
needed. My understanding is that this project is now underway, but it is
not far enough along for us to make 3.0 commitments of dependancy.

These two fact lead me to conclude we are not intending to be UML2 or U2TP
compliant in this release. Making incremental adjustments along the way
that are not API breaking may be feasible on a case by case basis, but
other than that, the cost of migration utilities and support for backward
compatibility is not something we wanted to commit to.

Thanks for your time.
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One of the things that came up at the management call was the U2TP 
compliance or otherwise of the M9 driver.  I believe that we stated
Hyades would be U2TP compliant.  This means if we are not we should
raise bugs.  I am not personally competent to check for compliance,
and 
unfortunately Serge who is the interface point with the U2TP wasn't on
the call.  I have asked George Din to check with Ina Schieferdecker
at 
FOKUS, however I would like to raise the following issues which seem to
be floating aound and see if we can close them over email.

1) We seem to use Test Suite instead of the now-current Test Context
2) The Manual Test and the HTTP Test seem to use Test Suite and Test 
Case where they should be using Test Case and Test Component
3) There seems to be some concept of a Test Motivator floating around 
that we don't understand.

Feedback on this ASAP would be good.


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