Alex Amies - IBM
Charles Andres - Parity
* Paula Austel -
IBM
Anthony Bussani -
IBM
* Jeff Broberg CA
* Andy Hodgkinson -
Novell
Duane Buss -
Novell
Greg Byrd -
NCSU/IBM
* Brian Carrol - Serena
Tom Doman -
Novell
* Jeesmon Jacob -
Parity
Valery Kokhan
- Parity Ukraine
David Kuehr-Mclaren - IBM
* Mike McIntosh -
IBM
Tony Nadalin - IBM
Nataraj Nagaratnam - IBM
Dale Olds - Novell
* Drummond Reed -
Cordance
* Bruce Rich -
IBM
* Mary Ruddy -
Parity/SocialPhysics
*
Markus Sabedello - Parity
Jim Sermersheim -
Novell
Uppili Srinivasan - Oracle
Jim Miles
George Stanchev - Serena
* Daniel Sanders -
Novell
* Paul Trevithick -
Parity/SocialPhysics
Igor Tsinman - Parity
Lex Sheehan
* Brian Walker -
Parity
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* Present
Regrets:
Proposed
Agenda
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1)
Update on the multi-protocol server architecture meeting in NY. This
topic will be revisited at the F2F in Provo
2)Wiki
reorganization -
Changed Deployment
Configurations to Solutions
- Updates Solutions template (e.g.
here)
- Eclipse foundation is
working to support wiki and website integration
- Moving to integrate website and wiki (no
separate wiki navigation) Addressing the "two headed monster"
issue
2) Auto gen of .psf files and use
of subclipse tool status and any other
build related issues
3) Overall 1.0 Bug status. Please
review and update the list before the developer call
today. Link is available at the bottom
of the components page. There are
34 open items. At the time of last week's call
there were 32 items. This moved in
the wrong direction.
5) Status of specific solutions
- Client based identity
selector
- Eclipse based identity
selector (IE only)
- Web based identity
selector (Firefox only)
- RP
code needs to be
committed by Mike
- IdAS
6) IPR status
update (two open items, one with
checkintocvs status)
7)
Positioning of 1.0, and setting expectations (IdAS API for example) . See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_1.0
8) Planned Higgins
regular F2F January 15-17 in
Provo http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jan_15-17_Provo_F2F_Agenda. (Note new
date)
9) Skip call next week due to Holidays. Next
call January 3rd.
Notes:
======
1) 1) Update on the multi-protocol server
architecture meeting in NY. This topic will be revisited at the
F2F in Provo
[Paul]: Basic topic was Markus checked in
this SAML2 IdP. It leverages
JNDI and IDAS but not STS, so first day was an opportunity for Mike to go through his architecture. Then, Markus talked about what he did, then we had working session on a harmonization
plan. The potential exists to have one component provide both of these, but
first some premerge refactoring would need
to happen and some generalization
of Mike's code. The outcome of the meeting is to put this topic on the agenda for the F2F to see what we can plan out. It
may be that we would like to harmonize, but unless some one has business
resources to to this, this might be deferred. Mike, do you have any additional
comments.
[Mike]: Nothing further to
add
[Brian]: I thought Mikes' presentation went well
[Jeff] : It
was fantastic.
Thanks Mike.
2)Wiki
reorganization -
Changed Deployment
Configurations to Solutions
- Updates Solutions template (e.g.
here)
- Eclipse foundation is
working to support wiki and website integration
- Moving to integrate website and wiki (no
separate wiki navigation) Addressing the "two headed monster"
issue
How do you use the new solutions wiki
template.
[Paul]: Next topic is reorganization of the
wiki. People misunderstood the word deployment. Changed to Solutions. Have created a template for the news Solutions wiki pages.
Want solutions owners to move
to the
new template.
[Paul]: The Higgins
website and wiki are not
navigable. We have known that. The problem is architectural about how
the Eclipse website
works. The Wiki
works, the website
works , but the mixture has issues as the wiki
navigation is not project specific. I
am happy to say that though Mary and I have mentioned this numerous times to the Eclipse
foundation over the years, being able to quote other organizations
criticism, has gotten their
attention. And they are working on
a solution. The technical problem is that the navigation
on the wiki is for the overall Eclipse Foundation, we
don't currently have a way to customize it to be project
specific. We call this the two headed monster problem as the wiki navigation is therefore
different from the website navigation. As of today, the wiki is just used to supply pages. Navigation is from the website. This just highlights how much more work is need to be done the website. We have made progress. We have taken the webpages that are
only valuable to Higgins committers and have buried them. Will
keep working.
[??]: How do you
use the new solutions
template
[Paul]: You could
copy and edit. Use edit menu on the
side.
that has links to all
the information that people actually contributing to the project
need. It is available off the MISC page on the website
navigation.
2) Auto gen of .psf files and use of
subclipse tool status and any other
build related issues
[Paul]:
Do you know where that stands?
[Mary]: We talked about this in the last Higgins
call.
[BrianW]:
Mary and I talked off line. We need to agree on subclipse, then make the
change
[Mary] : Any objections to the
proposal?
[Paul]: You
can use any tool you want, unless you want to rebuild, then you would need
to use subclipse as the .psf's will use
subclipse.
[Not hearing any objections]
[BrianW]: That is a green light. I will
have Valery work on the the psf's.
[ Mary ]: Great.
3) Overall 1.0 Bug status. Please
review and update the list before the developer call
today. Link is available at the bottom
of the components page. There are
34 open items. At the time of last week's call
there were 32 items. This moved in
the wrong direction.
[Paul]: Bugs have been added and bugs taken off. In the end, the number is the same.
Andy is on the call. Do you have an update?
[Andy]: I'm
in the process of checking in and debranding all the Digital me code. Once done that
will take a look at what can be pushed off or closed.
[Paul]: Still planning to get this checked in by
12/31
[Paul] Jim, is not on the call...
[Paul] Next is Mary. This item is on
hold
[Mary]: It is for making the nav more project
specific.
[Paul]:
Mike you have a long list
[Mike] Still plan to do
it by 12/31
[Paul]: One of the biggies - is using a personal card to
back up a managed card. It is not on
the list.
[BrianW]: We are
still pushing for that.
[Paul]:
There are a lot of work items integrated with
that
[Paul]:
Performance of web-based selector
is very slow. Won't get it fixed by 12/31.
We will fix that as soon as
possible.
[Paul] One of the
items is the ant build for each solution. My understanding is that we are just focusing on the scripts for the web based
selector. Is that
right Brian
[BrianW]:
Yes.
[Paul]:
One of the items not on the list is documenting all the solutions. Markus' will be the first one
- the gold standard of
what one should look like.
Hopefully within the next few days Markus will be done. I should add this to
the list. It is a lot of
work.
[Paul]:
Still hoping to finish
the Parity
one
[Brian]: I will give you a summary after the
meeting.
[??]
Can I ask a question about 1.0. It is currently scheduled for
12/31?
[Paul]:
Pencils down is 12/31.Then the process continues...Need to have an IP release review and
a release review...
[Bruce?]:
We have developers here making
active use of the STS. We would like to be able to say we
are using 1.0 of the Higgins
stuff. Want some
dates..
[Mary]: Three weeks is the minimum. We have one more IPR item that is ok to checkintocvs,
but is not fully reviewed. When that is done. we need to schedule the
IPR review. The release review also needs to be scheduled and can't be
held until at least a week after the IPR
review.
[Bruce?]:
What can we communicate back?
[Paul]: Mid February at the
best.
[Bruce?]
What does the December 31st date
mean? What are Higgins developers supposed to
do..
[Paul]: December 31st is a forcing function to
get all the IP and code in. Those
are prerequisites for having the
release.
[??]:
Have concerns about API. May
get feedback
[Paul]: Can do more development, but not new
dependencies. Documentation
and fixes.
[Paul:] So we could branch. Need decide as a team if bug is fixed in
main branch. New stuff on case by
case basis...
[Bruce?
] They have deadlines they
are working towards
5) Status of specific solutions
- Client based identity
selector
- Eclipse based identity
selector (IE only)
- Web based identity
selector (Firefox only)
- RP
code needs to be
committed by Mike
- IdAS
[Paul]: Client based is
DigitalMe. We talked about
that
[Paul]: Eclipse based
is not in svn yet.
[Paul]: We have three selectors. UI merge has been deferred
[Paul]: RP code.
Mike, what is the status?
[Mike}: I did
it.
[Paul]:
Good.
6) IPR status update (two open items, one with checkintocvs
status)
[Mary]:
Right now we have only one open item and it has a checkintocvs status. So
right now everything can be in
svn.
[Mary]: A moment of
silence...
[Drummond]: Or
applause
[Daniel]: One question - I made a minor fix to the STS code - required use of library in
redistribution project though never
exported.
[Mike]:
Which one?
[Daniel]:
Commons Lang
[Daniel]:
My question is given that is has net been exported. We need to
check that it is ok.
[Mary]: We
need to take a look at that...
[Mary]:
What is the version?
[Daniel]: commons-Lang-2.1
[Paul]: Will make another redistribution thing and put it
in
the nursery..
[Mary]: Where is it used.
[Daniel]: STS
binding 1 AXIS COMMONS.
[Paul]: Should be in build
stream
[Daniel]: How determine...
[Jeesmon]: This is Jeesmon.
Are you are saying that the common lang was not added to the build.properties?.
[Paul]: You need to explicitly extract everything in the
distributable package
[Daniel]:
Right, as this hadn't been done before
[Paul]: See green light (build good) but not the link for the
build.
[Paul]: I will look into how the build dependencies
are generated.
[Daniel]: What about
Orbit?
[Paul]: That
is longer term.
7)
Positioning of 1.0, and setting expectations (IdAS API for example) . See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_1.0
[Paul]: We talked about this a bit. There
is a link to a very short description of 1.0. 1.0 is 7 solutions. An suggestions for what should be added to this page?
8) Planned Higgins
regular F2F January 15-17 in
Provo http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jan_15-17_Provo_F2F_Agenda. (Note new
date)
[Paul] during
the last F2F added a lot of agenda
items to Provo meeting. After new year will work on the agenda and getting sessions scheduled. This
is going to be an action
packed
meeting
9) Skip call next week due to Holidays. Next
call January 3rd.
[Paul]: Last item is Mary saying we will skip the call next week unless there are violent objections.
[Daniel]: I
have a little IdP. Is there
interest in my showing this at the F2F in January?
[Paul]: Of course.
That is great.
[Mary]: Yes, you can put it into the agenda.