Great, thanks for the update Vishy. I’ll
try and rework the build to use these EMFT downloads/updates this weekend when I’m
back in town.
Best,
Rich
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Hi Richard,
Wanted
to give you a heads up on the EMFT builds situation and also address some of
the questions you have. EMFT has starting producing integration builds along
with EMF and UML2 every thursday. We also have enabled update manager
capabilities today. The update manager site is available at the EMFT download
site. EMFT is part of the Callisto train. So when you get a chance you can try
to use the update manager and load only the necessary features for GMF in your
build target environment. Let me know how is goes. We will be promoting
integration builds everyThursday.
Download
site for the EMFT builds:
http://download.eclipse.org/technology/emft/downloads/
Update
Manager Site: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/emft/updates/ (you would
need http://download.eclipse.org/technology/emft/updates/site-interim.xml for
integration builds)
The
GMF runtime will start depending on a new EMFT component called transaction in
M5. This is also available in the download site. So when you try to create your
target this week you can include the 2 features for transaction (available
through the update manager or the transaction runtime sdk). The features are:
org.eclipse.emf.transaction
org.eclipse.emf.workbench
The
transaction feature already depends on the validation component. The
update manager can let you assess the current dependency of GMF on EMFT. Let me
know how it goes and feel free to contact me if you have any concerns. Your patience
is much appreciated.
Thanks
Vishy
Ramaswamy
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Thanks for the reply.
Some minor additions/complications… the runtime will
also require EMFT Validation, and the SDK will require EMFT OCL and Query.
So, it’s probably easiest to just have the Runtime require EMFT
Validation, OCL, and Query. We include/ship them all with our Runtime
builds today, but as EMFT has started producing builds of their own, we should
start using their downloads.
This raises the question of what happens for Callisto, as
EMFT is not “on the train”. I’m not sure of their
release plan, but we’ll need a stable build to target for our 1.0
release. This includes update manager installation, but I’m not
sure if EMFT is available via an update site yet.
For now, I’ll continue to pull EMFT from their repo and
include it in our builds; that is, until we can get some resolution on the
questions above. As for the changes below, I can try and reconfigure our
downloads this weekend or early next week.
Thanks again,
Rich
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Hi Rich,
These proposed configurations are reasonable.
Thanks
- Fred
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Hi Anthony,
I have often considered adding the documentation to the SDK build. I am
less inclined to include the examples due to our external dependency on
EMF’s examples, which would therefore force someone installing our SDK to
install EMF examples. Ideally, we’d eliminate this dependency along
with our UML2 dependency for testing, as proposed here (but which proposes replacing UML2 with the EMF library example).
Another consideration is size. The current SDK and Doc downloads are
about equal, so bundling together would mean a 23MB+ download. I
haven’t heard anyone in the community complain yet, but then I’ve
only heard one suggestion from the community regarding our downloads, and that
was for an all-in-one bundle a la WTP.
So, how about these download configurations:
1. Runtime (requires EMF +
GEF + WST properties)
2. SDK (Runtime + Tooling +
Documentation)
3. Examples (requires SDK +
EMF Examples)
4. Tests (requires Examples
+ UML2 + EMFT)
Sound reasonable? Would we need a standalone Documentation download? Another
suggestion is the Runtime + ECore modeling example. Lots of options.
Perhaps the newsgroup is a better place for the discussion?
And then, what about the update site? I wonder how many use it vs.
downloading zip files? Personally, I find it more convenient for getting
everything I want in one shot, and it will better when the Callisto site is up.
Thanks,
Rich
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:33 PM
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Subject: [gmf-dev] GMF downloads
Hi Team,
The GMF SDK includes runtime and source. It does not include the example
plug-ins and more importantly our documentation.
Should the SDK not include everything?
When I download the EMF SDK or GEF SDK, I get everything including examples and
documentation (although I will admit the GEF zip file is named ALL).
Any comments?
Cheers...
Anthony
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