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Hi all
 
Do we really need this additional "project natures"? 
Do we and our customers benefit from them or do we make the world for our "customers" more complicate? 
 
First, we used the different roles for ourselves for organizing the project and to give him some structure. Anyhow, the three different roles have their value, but in reality one physical person can represent 1,N roles and that is the case in our framework too. The g-Eclipse user will customize its g-Eclipse workbench to its own needs. So I expect the user NOT to follow the strict roles of the "Grid project natures".
So what happens if a "user" plays the "Grid user perspective", "Grid operators perspective" and the "Grid legacy application developer" and the "Grid service application developer" in one project?  
Does he then have a well defined "project structure" which can be seen under the "resource perspective" including all natures? This structure is then a collection of the "defined structures" of all project natures. 
 
I'm therefore not supporting the proposal right now as from my point of view, the "perspectives" are just different "points-of-view" to the same structure. Wikipedia gives us "perspective is the way in which objects appear to the eye" or "one's 'point of view', the coice of a context for opinions, beliefs and experiences". And as far as I understand the article http://www.eclipse.org/articles/using-perspectives/PerspectiveArticle.html, I don't see the benefit of to may structures for THE GRID PROJECT!
 
As Thomas, I don't see the very big benefit of the different natures. Therefore I send my -1 to the proposal and start the discussion.
 
Harald: -1
 
Cheers Harald
 
 
 
 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: geclipse-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geclipse-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Stuempert, Mathias IWR
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. September 2007 15:24
An: Developer mailing list
Betreff: [geclipse-dev] Design Proposal

Hi All,

 

Since I would like to start with the D1.7 - which is actually the “update of the requirements to the architecture” - I would like to discuss a major update that I have in mind and would therefore ask for your opinions. As you know we have currently three perspectives that correspond to the three roles we want to support. On the other hand we have only one grid project nature that is mainly tailored to fit the ordinary user’s needs, so I would call it from now on the “Grid User Project”. I now would like to introduce two further project types, a “Grid Developer Project” and a “Grid Operator Project”. The main benefit of that would be that we could set up basic project structures that are tailored to fit the corresponding role’s needs rather than only the user’s needs (i.e. an operator would like to have a “Batch Systems” folder which is useless for a user). I do not want to get into detail with the specifications of these projects right now - this should be addressed in further discussions. What I would like to know is if you would agree to such a change in our architecture and if I can therefore include this requirement in D1.7. So please give me some feedback on this soon.

 

Cheers, Mathias


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