Re: [flux-dev] Flux Integration into Codenvy Eclipse plug-in

[Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey!

I created a Google calendar entry for this and invited everybody.
The Google Hangout link is in there as well to joint he video call.

I will also try to record the meeting (never did this before, hope this is easy using Google Hangout).

Cheers,
-Martin






> On 19 Jun 2014, at 15:49, Sun Tan wrote:
> 
>> Hi we all have Google ids here ( @serli.com and @ codenvy.com) you can
>> invite every body. Tyler would you like vitally and Gennady to be part of
>> this as it may be more than just about the eclipse plugin?
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>> Le 16 juin 2014 14:25, "Martin Lippert" <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hey!
>>> 
>>>> OK Let's do it Monday 23rd, all the Codenvy Eclipse plugin team is in
>>> CEST and a meeting in the afternoon/evening would be perfect.
>>>> I suggest 4:30PM CEST (7:30AM PST), would that be ok ?
>>> 
>>> Sounds good to me. I would suggest to use Google Hangout (for which I
>>> would need your Google IDs).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Martin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Sun.
>>>> 
>>>> Le 13/06/2014 18:23, Martin Lippert a écrit :
>>>>> Hey Sun,
>>>>> 
>>>>> great to hear from you. A 1 hour video call sounds like the best option
>>> to introduce the Flux structure and to discuss possible ways to collaborate.
>>>>> I am in CEST, so something in my evening time would be preferred (which
>>> would be in the morning of Pacific Time). Would that work for you? My
>>> preferred day would be Monday 23rd, but Wed 18th would work we well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Martin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 12.06.2014 um 17:01 schrieb TAN Sun Seng David <sun.tan@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm Sun TAN, team leader at Serli of some plugins we are building for
>>> Codenvy. We are very happy to start working with you and maybe contribute
>>> to Eclipse Flux and help you making Flux a mature and nice framework.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Flux synchronization mechanism looks promising but we have no idea
>>> how well it will fit with our requirements.
>>>>>> Maybe you can tell us how Flux can fit with it:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Codenvy has workspaces and projects in their servers. It's mainly VFS
>>> that we can access through the Codenvy REST API
>>>>>> The Codenvy Eclipse Plugin goal is to checkout projects from Codenvy
>>> locally so users can use their favorite IDE with projects hosted by Codenvy.
>>>>>> Also, one of the main thing is we'd like to make offline work possible
>>> (which is not the case with the Web based IDE at the moment) where users
>>> could work in a plane or on a boat :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At the moment we are thinking making a sync that would look like the
>>> Git one, but without the versioning stuff.
>>>>>> From Eclipse, user would perform a sync request and the Codenvy
>>> Eclipse Plugin will show Codenvy and local file differences and conflicts
>>> and suggest to upload/download/merge files. The UI would be based on the
>>> Eclipse Team provider.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could you tell us how/if this workflow would differ with Eclipse Flux ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also would it be possible to have and 30mins/1 hour audio/video call
>>> with you so you could introduce Flux and so we can have a better idea on
>>> how Flux works and when we can plan to ship something :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK for the mailing list, adding it to this mail (and hope it works),
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm also adding Stéphane Daviet, one of the Codenvy Eclipse plugin
>>> developer to this email,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sun.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 10/06/2014 18:33, Martin Lippert a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hey Tyler, Hey Kevin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks a lot for the introduction. I am very happy to hear from you
>>> about this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> May I introduce you to Kevin Pollet, with Serli.   They are a
>>> Codenvy partner, and have been actively building an Eclipse plug-in to
>>> interact with Codenvy services.
>>>>>>>> It is getting quite mature.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In their next sprint, they will begin doing work on a
>>> synchronization protocol to keep changes made in an Eclipse client in sync
>>> with changes made in a remote workspace.  I have asked them to look at Flux
>>> as a possible solution to this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wanted to put you guys in touch in case there were any questions
>>> and / or collaboration opptys.
>>>>>>> I added John Arthorne to this, since he is the other project lead on
>>> Flux @ Eclipse.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The synching mechanism in Flux is at a prototype level only at the
>>> moment, so maybe nothing you could use right away. However, it is
>>> implemented from an interesting (and maybe promising) viewpoint of sending
>>> messages around in contrast to using a RESTful API or something like that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you would like to implement something like that for Codenvy, it
>>> would be great if we could come up with something that could maybe serve as
>>> a base for a future stable versions of Flux. Maybe we can collaborate on
>>> this? That would be awesome
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The syncing mechanism in Flux is designed to work on top of
>>> asynchronous messaging only and in a distributed environment without a
>>> dedicated master repository. So nodes are synching with each other via
>>> messages. This opens up a whole lot of possibilities, but might make the
>>> syncing protocol more complex. What do you think? Did you take a look at
>>> the Flux prototype implementation?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In addition to the pure file syncing, Flux is also doing real-time
>>> syncing while typing, which provides an important backbone mechanism for
>>> all kinds of development services. I am not sure, but it could be worth to
>>> implement a unified version of this syncing that is able to do both.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also briefly looked at differential synchronization instead of
>>> operational transforms to do this and that opens up a whole lot of
>>> additional possibilities as well, but I haven’t implemented anything yet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe we can continue the discussion about that on the
>>> flux-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx mailing list, so that people around Flux are aware
>>> of this thread? That would be great.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking forward to collaborating on this!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Martin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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