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I also think ip is a bit too minimalist. Certtainly as
the bundle symbolic name. I am less concerned as the package name.
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I'm
glad I'm not alone. I've asked the question to a wider audience to
see if they'd get the reference:
http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t98469.html
On 07/07/07, Remy Chi Jian Suen
<remy.suen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You're not alone, Alex. I think ip is a
horrible name.
> initprovisioning or initprov or something
would've been better.
> There's just no way that someone's going to
know that 'ip' is 'initial
> provisioning'.
>
> Regards,
> Rem
>
> On 7/7/07, Alex Blewitt
<alex.blewitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Am I really the only one who thinks
'.ip' is a bad name?
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On 07/07/07, Simon Kaegi
<Simon_Kaegi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > That's great! I've just done a
quick sanity check and everything compiles,
> > > starts and is ready to try out.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > For anyone wanting to take a look,
the following new projects were added to
> > > the incubator.
> > >
> > > 1) org.eclipse.equinox.ds
> > > 2) org.eclipse.equinox.io
> > > 3) org.eclipse.equinox.ip
> > > 4) org.eclipse.equinox.util
> > > 5) org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin
> > >
> > > I had one cosmetic question for
equinox.util. Currently the BSN is
> > >
"org.eclipse.equinox.util.putifull" -- is there some reason it's not
just
> > > org.eclipse.equinox.util?
> > > -Simon
> > >
> > > equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
wrote on 07/07/2007 06:41:23 AM:
> > >
> > > > In CVS under your proposed
naming.
> > > >
> > > > -Pavlin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, I'm not particular about
the names right now. Since we already
> > > > have a DS bundle lets just use
org.eclipse.equinox.ds for
> > > > declarative services.
> > > >
> > > > I also like
org.eclipse.equinox.ip for initial provisioning but
> > > > thought it might be to short
:) but it is snappy.
> > > >
> > > > Pavlin, if these are ok with
you please release with the names org.
> > > > eclipse.equinox.ds and
org.eclipse.equinox.ip. As I said before it
> > > > is no big deal to rename the
bundles if needed in the incubator later.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > Chris
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> > > >
> > > > as an outsider, +1 for DS
instead of SCR, there's like 5 people that
> > > > would get the SCR reference :)
> > > >
> > > > initialprovisioning is really
long....
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > ---
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> > > > [image removed] Jeff McAffer
---07/05/2007 09:13:02 PM---I agree
> > > > with all/most Tom said. In the
end we should look to have just one
> > > > DS implementation, Ultimately
I suggest that it be
> > > >
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> > > > Re: [equinox-dev] Prosyst
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> > > >
> > > > I agree with all/most Tom
said. In the end we should look to have
> > > > just one DS implementation,
Ultimately I suggest that it be called
> > > > o.e.e.ds. Never did like
"scr". I'm a little bummed by o.e.e.
> > > > initialprovisioning. o.e.e.ip
is snappier and I doubt that anyone
> > > > would get confused with
Intelectual property, or Internet Protocol
> > > > or, ... In any event, it is a
mild dislike so...
> > > >
> > > > Lets get the code in the
incubator and move forward.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
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> > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > >
> > > > > I can commit the sources
in the CVS. Here are the open issues
> > > > > that should be resolved
prior moving code to the CVS.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Naming.
> > > > > Following the discussion
the last proposed naming is:
> > > > > 1.1 org.eclipse.equionx.initialprovisioning
> > > > > other suggestion:
org.eclipse.equionx.ip
> > > >
> > > > +1 for
org.eclipse.equinox.initialprovisioning
> > > >
> > > > I think this name will reduce
an confusion with the
> > > > rest of the equinox
provisioning work.
> > > >
> > > > > 1.2
org.eclipse.equionx.ds
> > > > > other suggestion:
org.eclipse.equionx.scr
> > > >
> > > > +1 for org.eclipse.equinox.scr
> > > >
> > > > > 1.3
org.eclipse.equinox.io
> > > > > 1.4
org.eclipse.equinox.util
> > > > > 1.5 org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Replacing. If we use
the names org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin and
> > > > > org.eclipse.equionx.ds
they collide with the current one. Can we
> > > replace
> > > > > the code in the CVS at
this stage directly or temporary other names
> > > > > will be used?
> > > >
> > > > There is no problem replacing
the current implementations in the
> > > > incubator. To be clear
this is under the equinox-incubator directory
> > > > at
dev.eclipse.org:/cvsroot/eclipse. At this point I suggest we
> > > > get the initial code released
in the incubator. It is likely that
> > > > a number of refactorings are
going be needed to follow other
> > > > eclipse coding practices (i.e.
using "internal" package names etc.).
> > > >
> > > > I'm not fussed on getting all
the names correct initially. We
> > > > can easily rename them if
needed in the incubator.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. javax.microedition.io
package
> > > > > Now it is in Connector
services implementation. This is not a good
> > > > > choice because it is
needed only on Java SE VMs. J2ME VMs
> > > > > contains that package. In
our equinox distribution it is a fragment of
> > > > > the system bundle that is
installed only on Java SE VMs.
> > > > > But initially we can put it
inside the connector implementation.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Pavlin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think we should consider
separating this out into another bundle and
> > > > import the packages from
org.eclipse.equinox.io (but we can do this
> > > later).
> > > > I'm not sure why it has to be
a system bundle fragment. I think we
> > > should
> > > > make it a normal bundle
(called javax.microedition.io?).
> > > >
> > > > Tom
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