Prashant, I would suggest that you look
at doing a UI on the new provisioning work rather than on the old Update
Manager. As you may know, we have embarked on a rewrite of Update
Manager. The UI for that is just starting. The benefit is that
the code you do is more relevant and has a chance of really influencing
or being included in Eclipse. The downside is that you will have
to put up with some instability and lack of clarity etc inherent in early
As for peeves etc, one of the things
we really want to see is clean, easy to execute workflows. Keep the
simple things simple, make the complicated things possible. Ironically
the simpler they are, the less UI there is :-) Provisioning is one
of those things that people just don't want to deal with. There are
too many hard questions and normal users cannot assess the correctness
or impact of the various answers. Anything that improves the day
to day workflows would be great.
In Update Manager I think we went overboard
in the "process". Too many things to OK or agree to, too
many clicks required. We need flows that adapt to the situation.
For example, if the user is connected to trusted repos, why ask them
about signing and licenses?
Figuring out ways of categorizing and
presenting the various installation options is another one. Users
are often overwhelmed with choices. Much of the time they just want
to say "get me 'the Java tooling'" or some such.
There should be a smooth progression
from the simple to the complicated. For example, if someone says
they want to instlal the Java tooling, it should be possible/natural (but
not required!) as a matter of policy to drill into what they are about
to get and see it (if not modify it if allowed by the policy in charge).
These are just some issues. I've
not even touched on the first time install story...
We really need to think outside the
box and not go for incremental changes to the current Update Manager UI.
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[equinox-dev] New Update Manager UI
: Your thoughts
I will be doing the new update manager UI for eclipse as part of
Before I come up with a prototype, I would like to get some feedback from
It would be great if you all could list your personal pet peeves with the
current update manager ui of eclipse
and also if you could list down any functionality that you would like to
see in the new ui.
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