| Re: [epp-dev] Eclipse IDE on Windows Store? |
On 9 Feb 2016, at 22:17, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Yeah, sorry, I never thought much about either store. I get very little
from the Apple Store on my Mac. Xcode is really the only thing and that's
because it's the only way to get it.Sublime, as far as I'm aware the most popular tool used by developers on
Mac, isn't even in the Store.IMHO, having a great web site with a Download button that downloads and
launches a good installer is all we really need. I'm not sure the Stores
would buy us much. As a colleague put it well, "I used Google to find the
page and hit the Download button." And then he gave me a funny _expression_
like putting stuff like that in a Store was a crazy idea. YMMV.
Providing it in the store does not take away from alternative install options.
Many new/younger users searches for apps, including development tools in the stores.
But unfortunately both Microsoft and Apple's stores are too restrictive for IDE's to
be shipped via it (unless you are Microsoft or Apple that don't need to abide by
the same rules).
/max
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen manderse@xxxxxxxxxx
wrote:afaik I know (
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsapps/en-US/220f7769-ac99-462a-832e-95a5a5229d13/need-help-publishing-java-application-in-windows-app-store?forum=wpdevelop)
Microsoft App store has similar limitations as Apple store.The app has to be fully contained so you need to ship the actual java
runtime inside the distro and you'll need to be able to run as an
Windows Runtime app which afaik severely limits what an application can do
- especially in the area an IDE needs it./max
On 02/09/2016 04:40 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
I have, although it was over a year ago. It's ..... complicated. The
issues are mostly around the packaging requirements and the legal terms and
conditions. They are not insurmountable, but it would be a non-trivial
amount of technical, legal, and administrative effort to get our packages
into these channels.Ok.
In my humble opinion, if someone was volunteering to do more work in this
area getting up-to-date packages into the Debian and Ubuntu apt
repositories is where I would start. (I think you Red Hat folk are already
keeping it current on Fedora/yum, right?)Yes, the Fedora/Eclipse team provides a pretty up-to-date and high quality
rpm/yum package for Eclipse IDE.
On a related note, some users regularly get older versions of Eclipse IDE
because of the very old .deb packages available for Debian and Ubuntu. They
sometimes even don't notice they're using such an old version and don't
consider finding a new one. That's the purpose of
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=484765 .Why do you ask?
I'm wondering whether Windows Store would make "onboarding" of new users
to Eclipse IDE easier, to simply save them time. Being the only real IDE in
such a store may also be a big competitive advantage.
The vast majority of Eclipse users are on Windows, so if we're to consider
better delivery, it's IMO by far the main one to consider (more than theDebian/Ubuntu one).
Mickael Istria
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