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     On 10/7/2016 2:14 PM, Till Jaeger
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      Am 03.10.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Jim Wright:
 
      
        > Till, on your question on Section 2, perhaps the answer is simply to add
> the express right to prepare derivative works, provided that any portions
> of such derivative work which are comprised of the Program in whole or in
> part remain subject to the terms and conditions of the license?  Let’s
> say a court decides that subclassing does create a derivative work.  The
> license then provides that what they did is permitted and does not apply
> the requirements of Section 3 to the subclass…?  
 
       
      This is exactely what I want to say. 
     
     
    So I have read this thread carefully several times, and I have to
    admit that you have me confused. 
     
    The structure of the EPL 1.0 is that anything which is a derivative
    work must be under the terms of the EPL 1.0. (I.e. it is a copyleft
    license.) However, (Till's opinion notwithstanding) the EPL 1.0 was
    always intended to be a weak copyleft license. It was drafted such
    that anything which is *not* a derivative work could be offered
    under whatever terms the copyright holder desired. Our desire is
    that the EPL 2.0 follow the same basic construct: Modified Works
    must be made available under the EPL 2.0; works which are not
    Modified Works can be made available under other terms. Given that,
    I don't see how granting an express right to create derivative works
    helps. 
     
    In addition to the above, our motivation for using a defined term
    for Modified Works was to: (a) avoid the ambiguity of relying on the
    term, and (b) to eliminate the requirement to stipulate a choice of
    law. Adding "derivative works" back into the license runs counter to
    those objectives. 
     
    If we can't resolve this in another email to two, I will suggest
    arranging a short call to discuss. Sometimes a conversation can save
    a lot of typing. 
    Thanks for taking the time to help! 
     
    
  
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