I wonder if the 
  desire to incorporate collaboration into the capability patterns works against 
  our desire to have our capability patterns relatively decoupled and therefore 
  replaceable. If collaboration cross cuts through all capability patterns this 
  can make replacement of a capability pattern problematic. 
  
   
  At the moment, the 
  only hint of collaboration we have is expressed in the content of the core 
  concepts which are a bit of a ?pretty bag? on the side of OpenUP. At first I 
  thought this was a poor way to express collaboration because  I wanted 
  collaboration to permeate all through the OpenUP capability patterns. However 
  I am beginning to question both the practicality of this and the desirability. 
   The view that I am thinking may be more appropriate and practical within 
  the time frame we have is the domain based capability patterns express actions 
  and how those actions are coordinated 
  . Our core principles express coordination of understanding ? how a 
  team interprets the capability patterns. In other words, OpenUP is a software 
  development process that is expressed from two dimensions, as a set of 
  capability patterns (coordination of action), and as a set of concepts 
  (coordination of understanding).  I also have a concern that 
  incorporating collaboration into the capability patterns may be too 
  prescriptive. 
   
  We can chat more 
  about this during tomorrow?s call. 
  
   
  Best regards, 
  
  Steve 
  
   
  
  
  
  
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  I'll try to see if I 
  can participate. However, I'll be in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan camping, 
  so I can't speak to the cell phone reception and general mayhem at-large. If I 
  can't make it, I guess the biggest point I have (irrespective of the graphic) 
  is that we should represent collaboration pretty clearly. I think it would be 
  ironic if we claim that OpenUP is collaborative, but with little evidence of 
  such collaboration in the actual process model. So, I propose that our 
  capability patterns not be discipline-focused (which doesn't represent 
  collaboration with other roles very well), but instead be 
  collaboration-focused. That is, they should include at least one role (and 
  appriopriate tasks) from at least two of the domains (management, user, 
  development). In the four-circle graphic (with the product at the center), 
  these proposed capability patterns are represented on the arrows between the 
  domains. Then I suggest that we represent complete team-focused collaboration 
  (which is also product-focused) as configurations of these capability patterns 
  in each of the four phases (represented by their intent vs. their actual names 
  in the product circle). 
    
  
  I believe in the 
  current OpenUP method content, each domain is reasonably decoupled from 
  another (as it relates to interdependencies between tasks and work products), 
  with the exception of key work products such as work item list and others. In 
  the collaboration approach I described, there would be pretty high coupling in 
  the inter-domain capability patterns. So, the consequences of this would be if 
  some one wanted to replace a domain, we would place pretty few constraints on 
  what they replaced it with (based on the shared work products). However, they 
  would need to redefine the capability patterns that represented collaboration 
  with the other two domains. This does not trouble me, however. Basically the 
  capability patterns are method content configured into process, so if someone 
  replaces a big chunk of OpenUP method content (like an entire domain), it 
  seems only natural that they would need to redefine the collaboration that the 
  replaced domain has with the other two pre-existing domains (i.e. redefine 
  part of the existing process, but not redefine the existing method 
  content). 
    
  
  Have a great week! 
  
    
  
  Thanks, Chris ~:| 
  
    
  
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OK, I found them in bugzilla entry 
  
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152354 
  
Cheers 
Per Kroll 
  
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Project Lead: Eclipse Process 
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Hi, 
  
I can attend. 
Brian, which 
  slides are you referring to? I see a Word document from 7/24 with one graphic 
  showing a Venn diagram. Is there more than that graphic? 
  
Also, was there a discussion 
  in DC about a potential 4th pie, suggested by Scott, dealing with Deployment? 
  My gut feeling is that it is a good idea, but we do not have much on 
  deployment today. It could serve as better to wait a little before adding it, 
  so we do not have a pie advertising our big hole.. :) 
Also, before taking 
  a clear stand on whether that pie makes sense, I would like to see the 
  underlying process model to ensure that it is reasonably well decouplde from 
  the other "pies".. 
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hiho, 
  
  
I?ll be there. 
    
  
Can we also 
  ensure that Chris Armstrong is on the call?  During the face-to-face I 
  was enamored with all the thought that went into the graphics he created, but 
  I want to make sure we have a unified perspective and that the Venn/evil-eye 
  ideas synch with the pie ideas. 
  
    
                        
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Good morning everyone. 
  
  
During this morning?s General 
  and Overarching issues telecon we decided that we need a telecon to discuss 
  the issues raised by bugzilla issue 
  
  
    
    
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This call is scheduled for 
  Tuesday August 22 nd at 8:00am PDT.  Please refer to the 
  calendar for call details. 
  
This 
  call may have to be re-scheduled if Per Kroll is not available. 
  
  
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