| Re: [modeling-pmc] Re: [emft-dev] Proposal for Texo Component |
This sounds very cool! +1 Ed Merks schrieb:
Sven, Once-only code generators really do suck, so you have to wonder at their preponderance given how relatively trivial it was to build Java merge support. The original design and implementation of JMerge took roughly a week of effort, as a I recall. EMP is definitely a great basis for building DSLs with the added benefit that they all have a common underlying meta model to ensure that we don't end up with just a Tower of Babel. In addition, we aren't suffering from the misguided belief that XML syntax is the be-all-and-end-all of human readable notations. In our quest toward a grand vision, I think it's best to start small and to build the little pieces bottom rather than carve out a grand high level space top down. We also have to consider our project's charter and be sensitive to the concerns that the scope of the modeling project could just creep out to consume all other projects. Many DSLs would most logically live in other projects and we'd be best off to ensure that things evolve in that direction when it makes the most sense. So for the time being, I'd rather avoid creating more direct child projects under the modeling project. Having a small number of projects to group the large number of components seems appropriate... Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)Sven Efftinge <sven@xxxxxxxxxxx > To Sent by: EMFT Developer Mailing List modeling-pmc-boun <emft-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, PMC members ces@xxxxxxxxxxx mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> cc 04/16/2008 07:12 AM Subject [modeling-pmc] Re: [emft-dev] Proposal for Texo Component Please respond to PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@ecl ipse.org>Hi all, this sounds very cool. We all know that there are many general frameworks (web, RCP, SOA, etc,) out there which would profit from generators. Some of them (Ruby on Rails, Grails, SEAM just to name a few) already use code generation a lot. Unfortunately they use wizard-style passive code generation, where you generate once and further change the generated code manually. So most of the time generators are just used to get users up and running as fast as possible. Also they come up with concise languages to descibe domain models (internal DSLs). Those languages are not statically typed, have to fit into the host's syntax and have no tool support at all (EMP can do better). IMHO there should be some more projects like Texo, which show how EMP can be used. As EMFT is for EMF technology I find that those projects don't fit well there. We should create a new Project for such domain-specific applications of EMP. What do you think? atb, Sven btw: +1 On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:34 , Ed Merks wrote:Extended EMF Community, Martin Taal, the lead for the Teneo component, recently announced his intent to work on the Texo component which will focus on exploiting modeling technology for building web applications. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Texo I request the community's approval to create this new component as part of the EMFT subproject with Martin Taal as the component lead. Please reply with +1 or -1 on this thread. Obviously I recommend you give a +1, given Martin's outstanding track record with Teneo and his exemplary support for it. All EMF and EMFT committers are eligible to vote, so please take a moment to do so. Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx 905-413-3265 (t/l 313) _______________________________________________ emft-dev mailing list emft-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/emft-dev-- Sven Efftinge Phone: +49 431 5606335 Fax : +49 431 5606339 Mobile: +49 175 5274726 web: http://www.itemis.de blog: http://effi-blog.blogspot.com team-blog: http://apps.itemis.de/roller/itemislabkiel mail: sven.efftinge@xxxxxxxxx xing: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Efftinge itemis AG Schauenburgerstraße 116 24118 Kiel Germany Rechtlicher Hinweis: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 20621 Vorstand: Wolfgang Neuhaus, Jens Wagener, Dr. Georg Pietrek Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Burkhard Igel(Vors.), Stephan Grollmann, Michael Neuhaus _______________________________________________ modeling-pmc mailing list modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/modeling-pmc _______________________________________________ emft-dev mailing list emft-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/emft-dev
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