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Re: [ejb-dev] R: New release for Jakarta EE 12?
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  • Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 21:18:04 +0000
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  • Thread-topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ejb-dev] R: New release for Jakarta EE 12?

I agree that the Jakarta EE community has been actively working to replace all EJB capabilities with feature in other specifications, such as the CDI spec, transactions spec (@transactional), and even concurrency spec (timers).  With that direction from the community, any feature under consideration for EJB would be better targeted at a different specification.

I would prefer that the 4.1 release plan only address the requirements that are coming from the Jakarta EE 12 Platform specification, which would be
- remove Java Security Manager language
- Java SE 17 or higher.

 

From: ejb-dev <ejb-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Arjan Tijms via ejb-dev
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2025 11:46 AM
To: ejb developer discussions <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Arjan Tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Edward Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Reza Rahman <Reza.Rahman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ejb-dev] R: New release for Jakarta EE 12?

 

Hi, As we need to move away from EJB in order to make the project more consistent, is it really wise to add a new feature? I'm thinking about the signal we're sending out with this. On the one hand we're deprecating usage of the

Hi,

 

As we need to move away from EJB in order to make the project more consistent, is it really wise to add a new feature? I'm thinking about the signal we're sending out with this. On the one hand we're deprecating usage of the EJB, and at the same time we're adding something new to it.

 

Would it not be better to implement the same feature using something that depends on CDI? 

 

Kind regards,

Arjan Tijms

 

 

 

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 11:08, Tomasz Adamski via ejb-dev <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi David,

 

I have created a draft plan PR for Enterprise Beans Jakarta EE12 release but I cannot create a new release on the project page: https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.ejb. Would you be able to create such a release or point me to someone who can help me with this?

 

Regards,

Tomek

 

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:27PM Tomasz Adamski <tadamski@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Angelo,

 

I'm the lead for the Enterprise Beans subsystem in WildFly/JBoss EAP.

 

I have created a PR (https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/826) with Enterprise Bean Jakarta E12 release draft plan.

 

Regards,

Tomek

 

On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 9:10PM Angelo Rubini via ejb-dev <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All,

 

why not think about standardizing this implementation present in wildfly?  like this:

 

·       Ejb Over http/Http2 

The client libraries that support EJB, Naming and Transactions over HTTP - wildfly/wildfly-http-client

    •  
·      Distributed EJB Transaction over http/http2

Discover how to implement a distributed transaction solution using Jakara EE Jakarta Enterprise Beans (EJB) in this in-depth guide.

    •  

Regards

Angelo Rubini

 


Da: ejb-dev <ejb-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> per conto di Jared Anderson via ejb-dev <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Inviato: mercoledì 9 aprile 2025 22:29
A: ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Edward Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Jared Anderson <jhanders@xxxxxxxxxx>
Oggetto: Re: [ejb-dev] New release for Jakarta EE 12?

 

Community members,

 

I am writing this email to your community now that the April 15 deadline is fast approaching.  As of now, a release plan for a next release of your component has not been created or an indication put in the  opened issue in my original email to state that you do not plan a release that could be considered for Jakarta EE 12.

 

It was brought to my attention that people may not realize what is being asked to be done when creating a release plan.  There is information in the issue provided on the how, but the main point of having a release plan is that we are looking to know that you are planning to do something and whether you are looking at doing a minor release or a major release depending on the types of changes.  What is in the release plan that you create can change over time, but at least there is an indication that you are working to make a new release even if you don't know what all will be in it yet.  We are not asking for all issues to be created and code, tests, implementation or specs to be updated in order to make a release plan.  If you look at the release plans created so far, you will find that some of them are quite vague.  They are just saying yes we plan on doing a new version of the component.  A release plan also gives an indication to those not in the Jakarta community that work is happening in the specification that they can look forward to and possibly suggest changes.  If you need help with making your release plan, please reach out to Ed or me on slack or email.

 

Enterprise Beans  was identified as a component that requires a new release in order to remove Java SecurityManager language from the specification at this location

 

If there are no other things to be added to a release plan for Enterprise Beans, that is ok.  It can just be a very minor release to update the specification to remove SecurityManager references.

 

Thanks,

 

Jared Anderson

Jakarta EE 12 Release Co-coordinator


From: Jared Anderson <jhanders@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 3:55 PM
To: ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <ejb-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Edward Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: New release for Jakarta EE 12?

 

Community members,

 

Executive Summary

 

1. See issue #153.

      a. If you don't plan to have a new version for your specification in EE 12, just close the issue.

      b. If you plan to have a new version, use the issue to create a release plan by April 15, 2025.

2. See this dashboard where the component release plan issues are tracked.

 

 

Details

 

On Monday I opened issue #153 in your repository to request your community to consider a new release of your component for Jakarta EE 12 by creating a new release plan.  The issue contains a lot of details that explain what to do to create a release plan.   You can use the issue to document initial thoughts and reference other issues in your repository as you work out what you want to include in a release plan.  

 

A dashboard in GitHub was created to track the status of the release plan issues.  The dashboard, located here, contains both a Board and Table view of the release plan issues.  What is being asked of each community is to decide on if you plan to have a new release to be considered for EE 12 or not.  If not, closing the issue will move it to the final column on the dashboard.  If you are planning to have a new version of your component for EE 12, please follow the instructions in the issue by April 15, 2025 in order to get your issue moved to the second column for your mentor to look at the issue and get it ready for a plan ballot.  You will see that your issue in the board includes the name of the mentor that was assigned to your component in EE 11.

 

Thanks,

 

Jared Anderson and Ed Burns

Jakarta EE 12 Release Co-coordinators

 

 

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Regards,

Tomek


 

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Tomek

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