Actually I am not against *having* a CONTRIBUTING file. I just wonder if it is additionally *needed* from a legal perspective as all contributors have to sign an ECA anyways.
-Markus
Von: ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
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An: EE4J PMC Discussions
Betreff: Re: [ee4j-pmc] CONTRIBUTING Issue coming your way...
Hi Aislan,
Fully agree with your assessment. I don't think Markus is arguing against the policy of having a CONTRIBUTING file. That is still a requirement of every Project within the Eclipse Foundation. Markus is questioning why this latest "non-assert" update needed to be in the CONTRIBUTING file instead of just becoming part of the ECA. Ivar is following up on that question. Hope this helps.
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From: Aislan Nadrowski <aislan.nadrowski@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 05/08/2020 06:21
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ee4j-pmc] CONTRIBUTING Issue coming your way...
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Hi Markus/All,
IMHO it is nice that the projects have a Contributing.md file, because it helps mainly beginners to contribute. Sometimes, when you are a beginner and you are not a native English speaker you look for some standard things like a Contributing.md file. Also, when you do not speak English well is not easy to understand what the ECA is.
On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 1:40 AM Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Markus,
That's a good point. I don't know actually. I'll check with Wayne. There is p robably a good reason for it.
Ivar
On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 9:41 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I wonder why this has to be added to the Contributing.md file of all projects: Shouldn't this simply be part of the ECA?
Von: ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2020 23:09
An: EE4J PMC Discussions
Betreff: Re: [ee4j-pmc] CONTRIBUTING Issue coming your way...
For completeness, we also have this document which is the approved proposal which precipitated the non-assert amendment to the CONTRIBUTING docs..
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VMXVzdfBflKfhW0rmTJXI2sRAdECaVTXnElZ_RSrUME/edit#heading=h.5ku0nbahp5wg(everyone should have read access via this link...)
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From: "Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: EE4J PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/06/2020 13:41
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ee4j-pmc] CONTRIBUTING Issue coming your way...
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Hi Markus,
This item was initially discussed at the Jakarta EE Steering Committee on March 24 (search for "non assert"):
https://jakarta.ee/meeting_minutes/steering_committee/minutes-march-24-2020.pdf
Once the wording was properly reviewed and approved, then it was sent to the PMC for their "approval" and action. I (as a member of the PMC) volunteered to communicate this need to the Project Leads via Issues for easy tracking. Hope that's sufficient. If you need more justification, I would suggest contacting the Eclipse EMO. Thanks!
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From: "Markus KARG" <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'EE4J PMC Discussions'" <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/06/2020 12:39
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ee4j-pmc] CONTRIBUTING Issue coming your way...
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It would be fine if the PMC could also tell us the reason WHY all projects MUST add that text. :-)
-Markus
Von:ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Mai 2020 23:36
An: JakartaEE Spec Project Leadership discussions
Cc: EE4J PMC Discussions
Betreff: [ee4j-pmc] CONTRIBUTING Issue coming your way...
Hi,
Just a heads up that I will be creating (on behalf of the PMC) an Issue against each Specification Project to update/create a CONTRIBUTING file in each of your respective specification-related github repos. We need this update for all of our Specification Projects. The Issue description will have the detail that needs to be specified. We're asking you to do this at your earliest convenience. This would actually be an easy "first issue" for anybody that is looking to get started on a project...
Thanks!
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