| On 12/18/18 4:32 PM, Tomas Kraus wrote: 
 
      
      I wasn't pointing fingers, just exposing this problem to a wide
    audience.Hi Romain, your proposal is nice is nice, but it must be implemented
        first. Currently you just come to your office in the morning
        trying to move on with your tasks and you get stuck after 1st
        attempt to build something. The only way for quick fix is to
        restart release job. Our whole team was in this situation on
        Monday morning so we decided to fis this using this dirty way.
        Otherwise we could just go home.
 Please do not take it personally.
 
 
      I understand that you want to move forward but the OSSRH staging
    retention is a problem that needs to be fixed.  There won't be much projects which have at least job to rebuild
        existing tag. I know about a single one from some 50 projects I
        'm watching from time to time. And it's there because I made it
        today after discussion with Tom. :) So the other option was to stop working on EE4J projects and
        wait for someone to implement jobs to rebuild existing tag. It
        would take days.
 Let it take days and escalate the issue.
 
 
      That's how Eclipse wants you to do this right ?  I would also like to do things properly. ...but we have no
        promoted builds, no automatic integration jobs, no promoted repo
        on OSSRH.. .we just have to manually update version, build it
        and file set of PRs witch every single version update. Just
        imagine this sample (already discussed JTA API): They change
        version. We have JPA API dependency, EclipseLink dependency,
        Metro dependencies (not just one) amd all those things go into
        GF. So to avoid JTA transitive dependencies mess in GF, you
        would like all those projects to share a single one ->
        imagine how long it will take to manually update all of them and
        do manual reviews and merge, re-release all those projects again
        under a new version and finally put everything into GF. No, you
        don't want to to this.
 IMO this is not a good reason to justify the re-release of Maven
    artifacts.
 
 Instead we should expose the impracticality and escalate the issue.
 
 
      I disagree.  That's why I think that even existing release rebuild in
        staging is still fine when it's done from EE4J_8 branch which
        shall contain no significant code changes (new features,
          etc.) against last java.net release. I see it as dirty
        thing, but still an acceptable tradeoff.
 I would rather allow external snapshots than mis-use Maven to that
    extent.
 
 
      Pom changes can have a significant impact, the dependency tree is
    the input for a lot of maven tooling (e.g. maven-bundle-plugin).  The only acceptable changes in EE4J_8 are bug fixes and
        modifications to adopt Eclipse environment and requirements
        => those are just pom changes in most cases. 
 
 
      This can be done with 2 things:  But yes, we shall stop doing it at some point to make
        integrartion testing more stable.
 It would great if you find a way how to restage deleted
        artifacts to OSSRH. - zip up the local staging directory used by the
    nexus-maven-plugin and archive it as an artifact in the original
    Jenkins job.
 - create a job that can fetch that zip and use
    nexus-maven-plugin:deploy-staged to re-stage the missing artifacts.
 See
https://github.com/sonatype/nexus-maven-plugins/tree/master/staging/maven-plugin#deploy-staged
 
 
      IMO you are pointing at another process issue. We can stop doing those bad things after that. But until this
        is done, we still need some way to fix this problem quickly -
        currently rebuilding it from EE4J_8 head. I can put my script to rebuild artifact from git tag to wiky,
        but it will take 2 weeks for all projects to implement it and it
        will generate additional workload.
 
 The projects encapsulation is very strong. Every project gets their
    own Jenkins master with their own set of credentials.
 This makes sense for some project (glassfish, jersey, metro, etc),
    but does not for other much smaller projects (e.g. most API
    projects).
 
 There is a lack of common tooling for projects, so far the
    release job scripts have been duplicated and flavored many times.
 This leads to inconsistency and bad practices to spread all over.
 
 
        
 Tomas
 Dne 18.12.18 v 23:59 Romain Grecourt
        napsal(a):
 Folks,
        
 Re-releasing Maven artifacts (or overwrite) has been a common
        practice within EE4J projects.
 I believe this is mainly due to the release scripts and Jenkins
        jobs that make it too easy to re-run the release for a
        particular version.
 
 This is a bad Maven practice and should be avoided as much as
        possible. We should only do this for very specific use cases
        where a version gap is not acceptable.
 E.g. an API with a final version has a bug, we can re-release it
        while it is still in OSSRH staging.
 
 Releasing a project with a final version where a gap is not
        acceptable should be done with extra caution. This means the
        integration has been tested before hand very carefully.
 If there is a development cycle, intermediate versions (e.g.
        1.0-bXX or whatever qualifier fits) can be used, in such case a
        version gap is acceptable and maven releases may be done
        carelessly.
 
 Re-releasing something already integrated in other projects can
        creates issues that are not associated with a git commit. (i.e
        the build could start failing without a change).
 This is like having the drawbacks of external snapshots without
        the benefits.
 Note that it also forces purging various Maven caches and
        mirrors which can be quite tricky.
 
 There is also the issue of the retention period of OSSRH
        staging. Staging repositories will be automatically deleted
        after 1 month. This used to be 2 weeks but we got Sonatype to
        extend it to 1 month.
 This is unfortunately very impractical. IMO this calls for
        Eclipse to engage with Sonatype in order to have our own
        dedicated nexus gateway, similar to maven.java.net.
 
 The retention period is also why some projects have been
        re-released. AFAIK the current workaround is to re-run the
        release job with the same version.
 If the release is triggered off of a development branch (e.g.
        EE4J_8) then the re-released artifacts may have different
        content.
 
 Even if triggered from the release tag the artifacts will have a
        different fingerprints. While it's not as big of an issue, this
        may have bad side effects with things that are re-bundled (e.g.
        GlassFish zip distributions).
 Instead of rebuilding the Maven artifacts that are missing, we
        should provide a way to re-release existing artifacts. E.g.
        archive the artifacts on Jenkins and have a way to re-stage them
        to OSSRH.
 
 Thanks,
 Romain
 
 
 
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