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Re: [ee4j-build] Mailing list Descriptions

I got a plus-one and a couple of "thank you's" from PMC members. I hope this is all you need.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=540086

If not, please let me know.

-- Ed


On 10/12/2018 1:37 AM, Mikaël Barbero wrote:
I supposed that, as EclipseLink is an Eclipse project for a long time, the mailing list description may not need to be tweaked. I know nothing about Krazo (which is not surprising if it's not provisioned yet).

To quote myself: "Please open a ticket https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Community&component=MailingLists with this list, asking for the descriptions to be updated accordingly. As it touches many EE4J projects, and instead of asking each project lead for their +1, you may want to get a +1 from a PMC member. A simple comment from one of them on the bug should be enough"

Thanks.

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Le 11 oct. 2018 à 18:50, Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

Mikael:

One other thing: I noticed that EclipseLink isn't included in your list. Is that intentional? I presume that Krazo isn't listed yet because it isn't provisioned.

-- Ed


On 10/11/2018 9:42 AM, Ed Bratt wrote:

Mikael,

Attached is a CSV with my recommended updates. I only added a couple of other changes, just to clarify a few names that seemed confusing, to me. I added EE4J at the start of all these lists so one could type EE4J in the mailing list search tool, and see all these in one view.

If anyone has objections, please voice them.

-- Ed


On 10/10/2018 11:23 AM, Ed Bratt wrote:

Right. No resource changes, just description changes.

Is there a limit to the length of these descriptions? Looking at these, it would be nice (but increases the verbosity) to have a common text element, maybe "EE4J," for all of these so a simple text lookup would return all the lists.

-- Ed



On 10/10/2018 8:57 AM, Mikaël Barbero wrote:
I was not suggesting to change the repository or project name either. 

* I was suggesting to use project names in the mailing list names. 
* Arjan was suggesting to use the repository names in the mailing list names. 

You cannot change project name anyway (at least not by a simple bugzilla request).

Cheers,

Le 10 oct. 2018 à 17:38, Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

I wasn't intending to change the repository or project names, but we could do that as well. I'll leave that to the general community for more input. Other relatively obscure list names are ca-dev (common annotations), cu-dev (concurrency utilities). In the mailing list view, they just say: ca developer discussions.

For now, I'll just send you some text to add to the mailing list descriptions so that the proper developer discussion mailing lists can be more easily found.

I'll send that in a bit (it's a long list).

Thanks,

-- Ed


On 10/10/2018 2:12 AM, Guillermo González de Agüero wrote:
+1

El mié., 10 oct. 2018 11:02, arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
Hi,

I'm not greatly bothered by "es", but if possible then "ee-security" would be the better name, or possibly "ee-security-api".

Kind regards,
Arjan

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:59 AM Mikaël Barbero <mikael.barbero@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The "es" name is perhaps a bit cryptic indeed. I think Werner made some comments about this before as well. There's also a disconnect with the name of the GitHub repo, which is at https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/security-api.

"security-api" might have been the better name for consistency reasons.

It works for project which have a single repository @ github, but some projects have many repositories. How should it be named then?

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From:        Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        EE4J PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        10/12/2018 11:43 AM
Subject:        Re: [ee4j-pmc] For PMC approval: Developer Mailing List description proposed change
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Great proposal. I have +1'ed it in Bugzilla.

Ivar

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 6:39 PM Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just to reiterate (my text below may have been confusing): I am only proposing a change to the descriptive text associated with each -dev list. Nothing else.

-- Ed


On 10/12/2018 9:23 AM, Ed Bratt wrote:
I have submitted an issue to request a general update to all EE4J mailing list names.

Revise EE4J Developer Mailing List Names

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=540086

The original naming template was: "<project-short-name> developer discussions." For some lists, this is quite obscure (Enterprise Security Dev list is: es-dev, Concurrency Utilities Dev. list is cu-dev).

I propose changing these list descriptions to generally use the more expansive full project name, and in some cases, I augmented the wording to clarify the list between the API and the Implementation project. Finally, I added EE4J at the start of each list name. While a bit wordy, this provides a simple string (EE4J) which can be searched in the "List Subscription Form" to find all related EE4J developer discussion lists (except for EclipseLink).

Please consider this. If the PMC agrees with this, I believe the web-master will implement this if any one PMC member adds a +1 comment.

This is just to change the list description text. No list names or repository name changes are proposed.

Thanks,

-- Ed

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