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| Re: [eclipselink-dev] questions while running JPA JUnit tests | 
Hi Tom,
I just received a reply from the Symfoware team.
It's not a detailed reply regarding the behaviours of each category in 
your e-mail, but it does seem to explain the last lock errors I saw.
In my question to them I had described that I saw lock errors in step 4 
of the following sequence:
1. Obtain a connection
2. (re)create tables (DROP TABLE, CREATE TABLE)
3. start transaction (con.setAutoCommit())
     access tables (INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE)
   commit transaction (con.commit())
4. recreate tables created at 2. (DROP TABLE, CREATE TABLE)
5. access tables as in 3.
My translation of his reply is that Symfoware has a concept of a 
"session", and resources accessed from within a session cannot be 
dropped, by design, until the session has been closed. He says that 
could be the reason an error occurred at step 4.
He adds that there is no effect with the other categories of statements 
(referring to the four categories in your e-mail below).
Does this make sense to you?
Regarding the hang I saw in getConnection, he asked more information, so 
that issue might be unrelated.
Thanks,
Dies
Tom Ware wrote:
Hi Dies,
  Sorry not to have gotten back to you at the end of the week last week 
- last week things were very busy around here.
  I am hesitant to go down the "static session" path until we have fully 
explored the transaction route.  Building a "static session" into our 
schema generator in a reasonable way will be fairly involved.
  I think we need to figure out the details of what we are allowed to do 
and what we are not allowed to do and then figure out where the test 
framework causes issues with these assumptions.
  As I understand the information you have provided in the past, there 
are several categories of statements that have different rules in 
Symfoware:
1. CREATE TABLE
2. DROP TABLE
3. DML (INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE)
4. Temporary tables
  For each of these there are several possible behaviors
1. No Effect on permissions for later statements
2. Transactional - If wrapped in a transaction, does not affect 
permissions after transaction is committed.  Can exist in the same 
transaction as other types of statments.
3. Transactional (exclusive) - same as above, but needs its own transaction
4. Connection-Local - Later statements that affect the same table must 
be in the same connection
5. Connection must be closed before later statement can affect the same 
table
  A definitive answer about what constraints we are trying to meet for 
each of these scenarios will help us.  Is there a good way to get that.  
When we have a definitive answer, we can so some analysis of the test 
issues you are seeing to see if there are easy ways we can make the test 
framework behave in the way Symfoware expects.
  A few other comments:
- Andrei Ilitchev send a link about temp tables in Symfoware that 
contained some keywords like: "LOCAL TEMPORARY".  It is hard for us to 
understand alot of the docs we find for symfoware in the internet since 
they seem to be in Japanese. Is that keyword a valid one. It seems 
counter-intuitive to allow something called a temporary table and then 
not be allowed to create it and insert into in the same transaction.
- Is it the first access to a temporary table that fails, or does the 
first one succeed and a later one fails?
- TableSpace: Do all tables need a tablespace, or just temporary 
tables?  Are you also getting an issue with our normal table creation?
- You mentioned earlier you tried to experiment with the connection pool 
settings.  Remind me what your results are when you set the settings in 
the test persistence xmls to have a MIN and MAX of 1.
- Update and Delete all statements are defined in the JPA 1.0 
specification in the JPQL.  e.g. Delete from Employee e where e.salary > 
100000
- The types of statements that require Temporary tables are fairly 
limited. (Andrei can probably give a better comment, but I think they 
are the same ones that we rewrite to use a subquery and that were 
causing issues in your test because the subquery refers to the same 
table as the outer query.)  If we log this issue as a limitation, I do 
not think this would get in the way of certification.
-Tom
Dies Koper wrote:
Hi Tom,
 >   I am glad you are starting to get some success.
I might have reached the limit of this success already.
I can do a full run again (no hangs), with a success rate of 57.90% 
(highest so far!), 56 failures and 495 errors.
The main errors/failures I see are due to:
- table locked issue (still)
- temporary table issue
I'm not sure why, but I see a certain table (for example CMP3_DEPT) 
being dropped/created and successfully used, then it tries to drop and 
recreate it, but the drop failed because the table's locked by another 
user. This exception then prevents other tables from being created, 
leading to other failures (like table not found).
 From the log I can see the create and drop statements were executed 
in transactions. Even the DML to it seems to all use transactions.
I don't know if it means anything to you, but the logged numeric id of 
the connection when it failed was the same as when the table was 
successfully created earlier, but the id of the connection used for 
the DML was different.
I'd like to try the other idea you had with a static session. Could 
you give more information?
I suppose I can swap it in in the locations where I now begin/commit 
the transactions?
Can this static session use (unpooled) connections that can be closed 
at "commit" time?
Did you take a look at any of the other calls to 
shouldWriteToDatabase()?  Will they require transactions as well?
Yes I did.
They don't require transactions for Symfoware because they relate to 
creating/dropping constraints using ALTER TABLE (a syntax Symfoware 
does not support) and to altering sequences (again, not supported by 
Symfoware).
With global temporary tables implemented, creation of the table goes 
fine, but the following INSERT fails because the table is "locked". 
I'm not sure if I can (or should) put this table's create statement 
in a transaction, I suppose this whole query could already be 
running in a transaction.
I am surprised that Delete All and Update All queries are not running 
in transactions already.  Maybe we should try to isolate a sequence of 
Note that a "Delete All" consists of the following statements (at 
least in the tests that I saw failing):
1. creation of the global table
2. insert some rows
3. select some rows
4. drop the global table (or delete * from the table, depending on 
whether local temporary tables are used).
All of this might be in one transaction, but the issue with Symfoware 
was that DDL and DML can't be in the same transaction, so 1. needs to 
run in a transaction and commit, then 2. and 3. in a new transaction, 
then 4. (even putting just 1. and 4. in transactions does not seem to 
help as 2. and 3. lock the table)
These statements are created and added to a Vector, and I'm not sure 
where and how these statements are executed (so I could add the 
demarcations between them). I am hoping Andrei will have a good 
suggestion. Or a better solution.
tests that cause the failure... (i.e. Does the first Delete all or 
Update All fail?  Or, is the temporary table already created by 
another Delete all or Update all?  Do we see the initial create 
demarked by transactions?  Is there an error in the initial create 
that causes issues?)
The temporary table seems to have been created successfully. Here is 
the relevant part of the log:
    [junit] [EL Finer]: 
ServerSession(14864562)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--client acquired
    [junit] [EL Finest]: 
UnitOfWork(31975400)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--Execute query 
DeleteAllQuery(referenceClass=Project sql="DELETE FROM TL_CMP3_PROJECT")
    [junit] [EL Finer]: 
ClientSession(2776693)--Connection(14563222)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--begin 
transaction
    [junit] [EL Fine]: 
ClientSession(2776693)--Connection(14563222)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--CREATE 
GLOBAL TEMPORARY TABLE TL_CMP3_PROJECT (PROJ_ID INTEGER NOT NULL, 
PROJ_TYPE VARCHAR(255), DESCRIP VARCHAR(255), PROJ_NAME VARCHAR(255), 
VERSION INTEGER, LEADER_ID INTEGER, PRIMARY KEY (PROJ_ID)) ON TESTDB01 10
    [junit] [EL Fine]: 
ClientSession(2776693)--Connection(14563222)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--INSERT 
INTO TL_CMP3_PROJECT (PROJ_ID) SELECT PROJ_ID FROM CMP3_PROJECT WHERE 
(PROJ_NAME = testUpdateAllProjects)
    [junit] [EL Fine]: 
ClientSession(2776693)--Connection(14563222)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--DELETE 
FROM TL_CMP3_PROJECT
    [junit] [EL Warning]: 
UnitOfWork(31975400)--Thread(Thread[main,5,main])--Local Exception Stack:
    [junit] Exception [EclipseLink-4002] (Eclipse Persistence Services 
- 2.0.0.qualifier): org.eclipse.persistence.exceptions.DatabaseException
    [junit] Internal Exception: java.sql.SQLException: [SymfoWARE ODBC 
Driver][SymfoWARE Server] JYP2091E Table "TL_CMP3_PROJECT" of schema 
"DEVELOP" being used exclusively by another user.
    [junit] Error Code: -2091
    [junit] Call: INSERT INTO TL_CMP3_PROJECT (PROJ_ID) SELECT PROJ_ID 
FROM CMP3_PROJECT WHERE (PROJ_NAME = 'testUpdateAllProjects')
    [junit] Query: DeleteAllQuery(referenceClass=Project sql="DELETE 
FROM TL_CMP3_PROJECT")
    [junit]     at 
org.eclipse.persistence.exceptions.DatabaseException.sqlException(DatabaseException.java:333) 
Another issue with Symfoware's temporary tables is that the table 
space name for the table must be specified at creation time. It does 
not default to the table space that creation of normal tables 
default to. So we'd need a way for the user to define this table space.
There is a table passed into the writeCreateTempTableSql() method.  
Can we use the table space from that table?
I would like it to use that table's table space, but I don't know how 
to find out dynamically what table space that is using. (I am 
currently hard-coding it for now)
Symfoware V10 (coming out soon) has a new "DEFAULT TABLESPACE" option 
that I can specify. I'm not sure how it works, but there is also a new 
CREATE DEFAULT TABLESPACE DDL statement, that I suppose it works with.
So I could specify that and inform the user to prepare a default 
tablespace, but in that case I need to explain in the Wiki which kind 
of JPA functions require it.
Also, except for the table space I need to specify the number of 
concurrent users that will use it. Is my understanding correct that 
these tables are used within a transaction, so they will never be 
accessed by multiple users?
In what cases are  updateAll/deleteAll required exactly? Are they 
related to JPA 2.0 functions? Are they required for JPA 1.0 
functionality too?
UpdateAll and DeleteAll are both JPA 1.0 features and covered in the 
JPA 1.0 TCK.
The spec does not use this terminology. Is it equivalent to an UPDATE 
or DELETE statement with no WHERE clause? Or an UPDATE/DELETE 
statement for an entity which has a particular relationship with other 
entities?
As I see no clean solution I wonder what the impact is of making 
this a limitation for this platform for now.
Have you looked into Andrei's suggestion of Local temporary tables.
Yes, unfortunately it did not help.
 From an EclipseLink point of view, that is a possibility.  It is 
just a matter of figuring out what that means to you from a TCK point 
of view?
No, more of a JPA1.0 /TLE point of view.
I've based this Symfoware platform class on the Symfoware platform my 
team developed for TLE. I cannot remember encountering this issue at 
the time. If there is a chance the same problem would occur on TLE 
(using JPA 1.0 functionality, not TLE/Toplink's additional stuff), I'd 
like to know the impact to Symfoware users of that implementation.
But also from a JPA 1.0/2.0 (=TCK?) point of view: to what extend is 
the platform still usable without this function? If it only affects a 
certain type of update/delete queries, and the range of functions that 
is affected can be determined and clearly explained (from a user's 
point of view), then I'd like to consider giving up on this and focus 
on other functions.
Unless it is a condition to ever get the Symfoware platform graduated 
from incubation (is it?), I'm not thinking of TCK certification at 
this time.
If I no longer run into locking issues, what will the final solution 
look like? Can I add a method createObjectsInTransactions() to the 
DB platforms, defaulting to false of course, true for Symfoware, 
that begins/commits/rolls back transactions in the locations I 
described above?
That is likely the best way to address this.  We could tweak the 
method name a bit, and of course, check the other calls for 
shouldWriteToDatabase() to see if they needed to be transactional as 
well.
Ah, you don't like the method name. ;)
Well lucky for us the final solution will be different.
I won't propose createObjectsInStaticSession(). ;-p
Thanks,
Dies
Dies Koper wrote:
Hi Tom,
I am trying to enclose DDL calls with transactions. Inside 
schemaManager.createSequences() there are mixed DDL and DML (select 
and inserts on the sequence table/object), so just I'm moving the 
transaction calls deeper into the call stack.
The locking error I get now is from the SELECT statement on table 
CMP3_ENTITYB_SEQ in the following call in SchemaManager#createObject.
databaseObjectDefinition.createOnDatabase(getSession());
I did put a getSession().beginTransaction(); before this call, so 
I'm not sure yet what the problem is. I'll investigate a bit more 
and let you know.
Thanks,
Dies
The idea is that we would add calls that begin and commit 
transactions around table creation calls.
Lets see if it works before we design the final solution:
- Find the 
org.eclipse.persistence.tools.schemaframework.TableCreator.replaceTables(session, 
schemaManager) method
- Add transactional boundaries
    public void replac