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Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] FW: feedback on rejected talks for EclipseCon 2012

For the submission abstract I am fine if you want to classify it as a
product pitch and I certainly do not want to advocate a conference like
EclipseCon to be full of product pitch talks.

I do remember a PC call where you were mentioning some of the criteria for
accepting talks in the Agile ALM track.  I could be misremembering the
conversation, but I thought the observation was made that there are many
products out there that are focused on Agile ALM.  And I thought one of the
things that was clear is that Agile ALM track will allow talks not focused
on Eclipse projects or purely eclipse solutions for Agile ALM.  I guess I
took that to mean that the Agile ALM track would be more open to allowing
agile talks that were technical in nature but perhaps had a focus that
highlighted products or non-eclipse projects that were relevant to Agile
ALM.

Perhaps this is a case of me hearing what I wanted to. ;-)

Tom




                                                                                                                                  
  From:       Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>                                                                             
                                                                                                                                  
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  Date:       12/05/2011 03:44 PM                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                  
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Tom,

Curious to know why you thought that?  It was not my expectation and I
certainly hope I didn't mis-communicate on this.   fwiw, when I read this
abstract it still sounds like a product pitch.

Ian


On 12/5/2011 4:33 PM, Thomas Watson wrote:
      For some reason I thought the Agile ALM track was going to be more
      open to
      submissions talking about products as long as they were deemed to be
      technical in content and not simply a product pitch.

      Tom





        From:       Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>


        To:         eclipsecon-na-program-committee@xxxxxxxxxxx,


        Date:       12/05/2011 03:10 PM


        Subject:    Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] FW: feedback on
      rejected talks for EclipseCon 2012






      John,

      There are really good and I think useful responses.

      I would add for
      http://www.eclipsecon.org/2012/sessions/agile-and-collaborative-development-mobile-apps

       the following:

      We try to avoid submissions that focused on product demos.  This
      submissions was seemed to be more focused on demoing Rational Team
      Concert.





      On 12/5/2011 3:39 PM, John Arthorne wrote:
            My thoughts...

            > https://www.eclipsecon.org/2012/sessions/whats-new-jdt

            This was a good proposal and just barely missed the cut off.
      There
            was also a desire on the PC to cut down on "What's new" talks
      because
            they are often not exciting and people can get similar
      information
            from other sources such as New & Noteworthy. Also because Java
      7 is
            no longer new, and Java 8 is still far off, there won't be as
      much
            buzz about Java as last year. This will likely be a hotter
      topic
            again in 2013.

            > https://www.eclipsecon.org/2012/sessions/how-train-jdt-dragon

            We could only accept a very small number of tutorials this year
      (10)
            and again this barely didn't make it. Out of the declined
      tutorials
            it had the second highest ranking, so if we had a couple more
            tutorial slots it probably would have made it. One down-side is
      that
            this is quite an advanced topic, because not a lot of people
      need to
            extend JDT, and ObjectTeams customization is even more
      specialized.
            By contrast the CDT submitted a more introductory "hands on
      with CDT"
            tutorial this is very popular with a wide audience. Tutorials
            generally work better for an introductory audience, so that is
            something to consider for future years.

            >
      https://www.eclipsecon.org/2012/sessions/agile-and-collaborative-
            > development-mobile-apps

            This was in Agile/ALM, so no comment.

            >

      https://www.eclipsecon.org/2012/sessions/holy-grail-mobile-development



            This had a fairly high rating, but there was another submission
      that
            was very similar. To avoid duplication we only accepted one of
      them (

      http://www.eclipsecon.org/2012/sessions/options-developing-cross-platform-mobile-applications-eclipse

            ).


            > --------------------------------------------------------
            > Ayushman Jain
            > Eclipse JDT/Core Committer
            > ayushman_jain@xxxxxxxxxx
            > Ph: +919742257437
            > Twitter @ayushman_jain
            > --------------------------------------------------------




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