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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Respin Request - Re: Heads-Up: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a
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Hi Dani,
The timeline as described by Markus works for me.
Just to be sure, I am waiting for the following contributions in the
aggregation build, correct?:
* Platform/SDK contribution
* m2e fix (already contributed with git commit 81a7eaa)
Anything else?
Regards,
Fred
On 09.10.2017 14:43, Markus Knauer wrote:
> Hi Dani,
>
> that is great to hear! If no one else would have given a +1, I would
> have sent one.
>
> The package build runs about 4+ hours as soon as the input is available
> from /staging/oxygen. Critical is (a) the time that is required to get
> the +1's from the package maintainers, and (b) distribute the final
> packages to the download mirrors. Let's assume that the SimRel
> aggregation build runs between noon EDT and 1pm EDT, followed by a
> successful package build until 5pm EDT, I could try to copy/rename the
> files to the download server late at my night (European timezone). If
> everything works out as planned, we'd still be in time for the release
> on Wednesday, but there is not much buffer included.
>
> The sooner we have something in /staging/oxygen, the better! I'm
> monitoring the mailing lists...
>
> Thanks,
> Markus
>
>
>
> On 9 October 2017 at 14:18, Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> So far no objections for a respin.
>
> In the meantime we have produced an Eclipse Platform/SDK build with
> all the fixes:
> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/M20171009-0410/
> <http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/M20171009-0410/>.
> Those affected, please test and report back.
>
> Can we assume a +1 for the respin if no objections come in until
> 12:00 noon EDT?
>
> Mickaël and Markus, what is the timeline to produce the final release?
>
> Dani
>
>
>
> From: Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:mlippert@xxxxxxxxx>>
> To: Eclipse Planning Council private list
> <eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: 08.10.2017 14:27
> Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Respin Request -
> Re: Heads-Up: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is
> broken in Oxygen 1a
> Sent by: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> +1
>
> Cheers,
> -Martin
>
>
>
> > Am 07.10.2017 um 14:55 schrieb Daniel Megert
> <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>>:
> >
> > Dear Planning Council Members
> >
> > The Eclipse top-level PMC agreed that we should respin Oxygen 1a
> RC2 to provide a fix for the broken Xtext code (see details below).
> >
> > The Eclipse top-level project hereby officially asks the Planning
> Council to cast their vote on a respin.
> >
> > Please cast your vote asap. The fixes are ready on our side.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Dani
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: Eclipse Planning Council private list
> <eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Date: 06.10.2017 18:15
> > Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Heads-Up:
> [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
> Oxygen 1a
> > Sent by: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Daniel Megert
> <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > We might have to discuss a respin for Oxygen 1a. Still pending
> Eclipse PMC decision.
> >
> > +1 for a respin with the 3 fixes in question.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dani
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on 06.10.2017 16:51 -----
> >
> > From: Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM
> > To: eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Cross project issues
> <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>,
> cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 06.10.2017 16:50
> > Subject: Re: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw:
> Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a
> >
> >
> > Lars, Martin
> >
> > Can you also cast your vote?
> >
> > In addition to the two mentioned bugs we would also provide a fix for:
> > Bug 525583: 'Nested' Eclipse Application Launch configuration
> fails to launch on Java 9 and Eclipse 4.7.1a
> >
> >
> >
> > Dani
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Mike Wilson" <Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: Cross project issues
> <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Cc: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
> <eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Date: 06.10.2017 15:56
> > Subject: Re: [eclipse-pmc] [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw:
> Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a
> > Sent by: eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:eclipse-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with Alex's assessment of the perils of using internals.
> Given the seriousness of this problem, I would suggest we do a
> respin anyway, and would argue we should fix the internal signature
> at the same time. In return, the XText team should commit to getting
> off the use of that method asap, with our help to add missing
> (actual) API as needed.
> >
> > McQ.
> >
> > "Daniel Megert" ---2017/10/06 08:42:19---In case of a respin we
> would definitely include that fix. Dani
> >
> > From: "Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Cc: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
> <eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Date: 2017/10/06 08:42
> > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
> Oxygen 1a
> > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> > In case of a respin we would definitely include that fix.
> >
> > Dani
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Fred Bricon <fbricon@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:fbricon@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Cc: "eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
> <eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Date: 06.10.2017 14:30
> > Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Fw: Xtext is broken in
> Oxygen 1a
> > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> >
> > While we're on the subject of respinning RC2, JDT has a critical
> bug[1] that prevents any project with multiple output folders
> (Maven, Gradle) from running any class (be it main or test) from the
> IDE, with Java 9.
> > A simple fix[2] was committed yesterday in master, I strongly
> believe this should be backported to Oxygen.1a, given that, most
> likely, all new greenfield Java 9 projects will use a build tool
> affected by that bug.
> >
> > [1]
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> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
> <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Daniel Megert
> <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > > Dear Eclipse PMC
> > >
> > > Should we consider to bring back the internal method and ask for
> a respin?
> > > We could provide a fix earlier than Wednesday, but it can also
> be risky to
> > > respin the Platform/JDT at this point,.
> >
> > While the "practical me" would say "Yes, if JDT team feels comfortable
> > with that", I'm leaning towards -1 for this one because it practically
> > means treating internals as API thus encouraging people to use them
> > directly instead of working close with projects they depend on to make
> > APIs stronger and more feature full.
> > I would +1 a case where the method is bringed back in Oxygen only for
> > the sake of preserving some compatibility.
> >
> > >
> > > Dani
> > >
> > > ----- Forwarded by Daniel Megert/Zurich/IBM on 06.10.2017 14:11
> -----
> > >
> > > From: Sven Efftinge <sven.efftinge@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:sven.efftinge@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > Date: 06.10.2017 13:59
> > > Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a
> > > Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Xtext is broken in Oxygen 1a, due to a signature change in an
> internal API
> > > of JDT [1][2]. It is a real blocker for Xtext and any downstream
> projects.
> > > Xtext will release a new version 2.13 with a fix on October 20.
> > >
> > > We could also create a bugfix release for Oxygen 1a, given we
> decide this is
> > > important enough to do a respin. We could provide it by Wednesday.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > [1] -
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