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RE: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Notes from a Heretic: Why do we havethe Ganymede update site?

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Great question Bjorn. I think we'll all have different own answers, too. With my CDT hat on, I wholeheartedly agree. The C/C++ IDE package has everything we put on the Ganymede update site. And I think my community is much happier using the package than trying to get stuff from the update site.
 
But I'm not sure that's true with everything. There's stuff on the update site that isn't in a package. Now maybe that provides insentive for those projects to create packages...
 
Doug S.
 


From: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:40 PM
To: eclipse.org-planning-council; Cross project issues
Subject: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Notes from a Heretic: Why do we havethe Ganymede update site?

Ganymede Project Leads,
Let me open a can of worms and publicly ask why we have the Ganymede Update Site.
It seems to me that:
  • For users, we have the Ganymede packages (http://phoenix.eclipse.org/packages/)
    • If we have packages, why have a separate update site?  The packages have all the update sites built in (via the feature.xmls).
    • And if someone wants to add new functionality to their existing Eclipse, they will go to the project specific update site and get the latest bits.
  • For adopters, we have the project downloads and update sites - why should we have a second update site for these?
    • In fact, having a second update site just makes things more complicated because then "where do I get future updates? do I get them from the central update site or from the project update site? and why are there so many similar update sites listed in my Eclipse?"
    • More complicated for project teams too, because then they have to maintain different site.xmls, feature.xmls, etc.
The original reason for the unified update site was because it was confusing for users to have to go here and go there and go the other place to put together a package. But now that we have packages, why do we need the unified update site? It seems to be extra hassle and complexity for everyone at no net benefit to anyone.

Comments? Opinions?
- Bjorn
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