-1 (re the attitude, not helpful)
We could all whine about how poorly run
this has been from the start, unclear or missing requirements that just “materialize”
at some late date and we’re all expected to be sitting around waiting to
comply, etc. Or, we could try to best accommodate a dynamic, challenging
situation – both within our projects and with Callisto – which is
what it appears we are doing.
I suspect disconnects are mostly a result
of extremely busy schedules and misunderstood expectations vs. the negative
connotations you’re spreading below.
Re GEF and VE targeted availability on Feb
24, were they possibly impacted by availability of Eclipse Platform M5a on Feb
24 vs. Feb 17 as scheduled?
Let’s notch up again the level of
demonstrated respect and get on with this.
Thanks,
--tyler
PS There’s a slight risk to our TPTP
M5 milestone this Friday, Mar 3. Final testing is underway and expected to
finish Thursday/Friday – not much room for any glitches.
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On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006
11:03 PM
To: John Duimovich;
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Cc: John Kellerman;
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Subject: [eclipse.org-planning-council]
Callsito M5 is missing GEF and VE -where's the commitment to participate?
<Warning>I'm done being the nice guy; I'm tired
of some project leads saying they want to be part of Callisto but then not
actually participating in the "Callsito community".</Warning>
Dave, Randy, John,
The Callisto M5 milestone schedule (that we all agreed to), had GEF and VE
being available (the milestone complete and ready to go on the update sites) on
24-Feb. Today is 28-Feb 11pm PST and neither of your milestones are
available on the Callisto staging update site. Are you planning on being
full members of Callisto? Perhaps you don't like the requirement to be
part of the update site? If so, you should speak up rather than just ignoring
our collective decisions. At the very least, you should be telling the rest of
the Callisto team that you are having troubles meeting the requirements -
saying nothing is really not an option here.
Dave,
In the last Callisto conference calls you said you were on track/status green (here and
here)
- what happened? Did "status green" not include actually producing an
update site?
John, Randy,
Neither of you have attended a single one of the Callisto conference
calls. Nor have you bothered to provide your regrets - you've just plain
been missing. You're on the mailing lists. You know the schedule. So
what's the story? Too important to participate? It certainly isn't
showing much community participation if you can't even be bother to tell us
that you're not going to call in...
- Bjorn
