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["Campo, Christian" <Christian.Campo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

email to Mik Kersten…..

Am 24.08.12 23:56 schrieb "Campo, Christian" unter
<Christian.Campo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:

>Hi Mik,
>
>I've been to your keynote at Econ NA and I thought it was the best of all
>three. I understand that you are disappointed.
>
>We had 45 submissions for extended talks. Some PC members want to only
>have 5 or 6 extended talks in the program. At the end we now have 12. But
>that also means that 3/4 of the extended talks were rejected or shortened.
>(10 were accepted as standard talks)
>
>The PC in general I though that you talk would not work as a standard talk
>so shorting was no option for your talk. 8 PC members voted on each talk
>on a scale from 0 to 10 (10 =good, 0=bad)
>The votes for your talk were
>10     0       5       5       8       5       9       3    with an average of 5,63. (The cut was at 5,88) Maybe
>that sounds close but there are about 20 talks between 5,4 and 5,8
>
>
>But thats just the math.
>
>I think your keynote at ECON NA made a lot of sense because of the
>AgileALM track. Something we dont have in Ludwigsburg. One PC member
>brought up the idea to only accept extended talks for topics/people where
>we want to set a special focus on. I dont think we where very successful
>in that I think we like only one extended talk per topic. So we accepted
>"One day as Eclipse committer" from Steffen and Benjamin as extended talk.
>Its not the keynote but it also contains components from the AgileALM
>story.
>One PC member was also more in favor of new content than recycling content
>from ECON NA. (he voted 0) While I disagree and most PC disagreed that
>vote didnt help. I think redoing a talk is common practice. But there were
>also PC members who thought your keynote was "ok" (not more).
>
>An extended talk slot is always hard to get. Not sure if my explanation
>helped. I was trying to make transparent how this decision was made. Not
>sure if a different wording in the abstract would have helped though.
>
>I am really sorry that it didnt work for you this timeŠ.
>
>christian
>
>
>Am 24.08.12 18:57 schrieb "Mik Kersten" unter <mik@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>>Christian,
>>
>>Do you have any additional input that you can give me here or on the
>>submission?  I just posted a comment.  I would like to better understand
>>why a talk that was the highest rated keynote of EclipseCon America 2012
>>is not good enough for EclipseCon Europe, and what I could have modified
>>on the submission in order to make it more suitable for the conference.
>>
>>Mik
>>
>>Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "EclipseCon Europe 2012" <no-reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: EclipseCon Europe: your talk has been declined
>>> Date: 23 August, 2012 9:48:38 PM EDT
>>> To: "mik.kersten@xxxxxxxxxxx" <mik.kersten@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Thank you for submitting your proposal The Future of ALM: Developing in
>>>the
>>> Social Code Graph for EclipseCon Europe 2012 (ECE) and OSGi Community
>>>Event
>>> 2012.
>>>
>>> We received many more proposals than we have space for, and thus have
>>>been
>>> forced to decline a large number of quality submissions. Unfortunately,
>>>and
>>> with our apologies, your proposal is one of those we had to leave out
>>>for
>>> this event. If there are any changes to the agenda and we are able to
>>>accept
>>> your talk, we will contact you immediately.
>>>
>>> We provided comments on most declined talks to explain why they were
>>>not
>>> accepted; please see the comments below. You may also view them on your
>>>
>>> account page on the ECE website. We hope you find these useful when
>>>sending
>>> proposals for future conferences. If you have questions for the program
>>>
>>> committee after reviewing the comments, please send email to
>>> speakers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>>
>>> If you don¹t see any comments included in this email and you would like
>>>
>>> more information, please contact us at speakers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>>
>>> We look forward to seeing you at the conference, and we urge you to
>>>register
>>> early http://www.eclipsecon.org/europe2012/registration to take
>>>advantage of
>>> the lowest price.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Christian Campo, Program Chair
>>> On behalf of the ECE 2012 Program Committee
>>>
>>> PC Comments:
>>>
>>> We consider this a great keynote, but don't think it would work that
>>>well as
>>> a talk. Since there are only a limited number of slots for extended
>>>talks we
>>> would have to make this a standard talk which in our opinion would
>>>further
>>> limit its value.
>>
>


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