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Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] need your opinion about a speaker/submission issue 
Hey!


+1 (for using a clearer and stronger language)


+1


There might also be a technical solution to this. Just force the logged
in person to be one of the speakers in the submission entries. There are
some variations how to do this. Either suggest that and allow the
speaker to be removed or not allow a submission if the logged in person
is not one of the speakers. I leave that up to Ian to decide or whether
to do that at all…..
I would not go down the way of a technical solution like the one described, because I can easily imagine situations where this could cause trouble or other inconvenience (like a colleague of mine asks me to submit his talk to the conference because he is offline or on vacation, and forgot to do it before, etc.). Even though I am a bit fan of technology, sometimes less is more... ;-) 

Cheers,
-Martin







christian

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I would suggest we have clearer and stronger language.  Something like
the following:

"All speaking proposals needs to be submitted by one of the speakers.
Please do not have a third party enter your talk.  We value speakers
that want to be involved in our community."

I really find submissions from PR firms are typically low quality and
the speaker is not engaged.

Ian




On 7/4/2012 4:33 AM, Campo, Christian wrote:

I think its good to encourage people to submit talks themselves. I am
struggeling a little with the word "detriment". Maybe its just my
english but I had to look it up in the dictionary and it seems to have
a kind of vague meaning.

Do we mean its a disadvantage or is it a blocker ?

Maybe we can make that clearer and easier to understand for non-native
english speakers like myself.

Other than that if you mean its a disadvantage and like to place it as
a warning that I am +1.

christian

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+1

I don't think we will miss any good talks when we drop this kind of
submissions.

Achim

On 03.07.2012, at 19:45, Anne Jacko wrote:


Hi all -- each conference we have a small number of talks that are
sent in NOT by the speaker, but by someone who is working for the
speaker -- often someone working for a marketing firm hired by the
speaker's company.

Our submission system isn't set up for this, and it causes a number
of problems that are a PITA to sort out. But the worse issue IMHO is
that these speakers tend to be unengaged with the conference. They
don't care if they get emails from us, they don't read what we send
out, they take a long time to sign their speaker agreements, and
sometimes their company will ask to send a substitute speaker after
the talk has been accepted.

Ian and I once discussed adding some text to the submissions info
saying something like "having your talk submitted by a third party is
a detriment to its being accepted; our community values speakers who
are involved and active participants."

What do you think? Good idea? Bad idea? Thanks.

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