Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] What do those tags mean?

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Forgot one ... 

o Committers and Contributors: This
seems to me a good fit for talks discussing architectural, or best practice
issues. I've seen a few talks that did want to talk some technical items
but seem main point was to talk about or introduce the project in general,
or perhaps to specifically talk about their future plans. I think all these
should be herded into "committers and contributors". Agree? An
example might be talk #1423. 

https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1423

From:	David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:	"'Eclipsecon Program Committee list'" <eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	01/04/2010 01:29 AM
Subject:	[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] What do those tags mean?
Sent by:	eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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I'm posting this message, since I think we said we would eventually document
what we (Program Committee) think the tags mean ... for next year if nothing
else ... and this is just my initial take on some very broad beginning
points for that discussion. I just finished trying to refine the tags of
about 50 talks ... so this is still fresh on my mind and wanted to capture
a few distinctions. I am quite open to "feedback" and others
opinions ... I'm writing this here as a quick note of "what I thought
about" ... not strongly as "the way I think it should be".

Second, there's some things I think we need to decide now ... before the
reviews get too much further along. (Which I'll ask 'inline' with my comments).


o Java EE 

      I take this to mean "Enterprise Java" in
general, not literally the Java EE spec's. So I think things like "Spring",
or the new OSGi Enterprise items are good here. In other words, I think
OSGi Enterprise better in Java EE than in "runtime" ... though
I'll admit, I'm not clear on what would go in "runtime", other
than equinox :)  If _real_ specific to OSGi, they'd go in OSGi DevCon
... but several are more oriented towards "OSGi Enterprise in Eclipse".

 o Tools 
      
      I think there are some things that actually do belong
tagged with "Tools". :) Mostly "tools for developers to
use in IDE as they develop code".  Not so much "tools to
create web applications" or "tools frameworks to use in your
applications" or similar.  This could include specific tools
and general ones (like "editors in Eclipse"). 
      
o Languages 

     I think here belong talks of some one specific programming
language (Groovy, _javascript_, XSL, etc.). 

     Question one: I think "Domain Specific Language"
topics should go in Modeling. Sound ok? In some cases, there's talks under
"languages" not marked with "modeling" so didn't want
to dump these on Modeling folks if you disagree.  (I could see if
there was already a specific Domain Specific Language that was being discussed
.. maybe "how to use the 'Automotive Parts Language in Eclipse' ...
I could see that in "Languages" ... but if it is about "how
to create a DSL" or similar, seems more model related. 

o Java 

    I didn't look at the Java list, but saw a lot of Java tags.
I think 'Java' tag should be for talks very specific to the Java Language
... debugging Java, syntax checking. compiling, editing ... but not about
"using" the Java Language for something (as seemed to be the
implication of most tags I saw). 

o Web Services 

    A tough one, for me, to define. There might be some specific
to just "web services", but often seems webservices is just a
(small) sub-type of Java EE or SOA? 

Question two: should we favor the "larger" tag category,
over "smaller" ones? (Where larger means "encompassing a
broader range" of talks. For example, tutorial #1233 [1] seems best
in _only_ Java EE category, rather than also in 'webservices' and 'xml
tools'. Maybe these have to be case by case? Ok for this case? Or in general
should we strive to leave all applicable tags? 

[1] https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1233


Thanks for comments, if any .... otherwise, welcome back from holidays
and happy new year! 

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