Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Category Revisions

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Brian Fitzpatrick
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On 19 sep 2008, at 21:50, Scott Rosenbaum wrote:

> I agree that all of the category assignments are a little suspect.
  
> Do you favor those communities that are the most active?  Or
do you  
> give the nod to communities that are struggling to move forward?
>
> One of the ideas of having the un-allocated talks was that there  
> would be committee consensus on more of the talks.  If a category
 
> gets extra talks it would be based on having the best possible talk
 
> submissions, as voted by the committee.  This year we have 20%
of  
> the time un-allocated.  (9 Longs, 1 Main Stage, 10 Tutorials).
> If you all feel that the balance is really out of whack, then I  
> would propose taking one long talk from each of the category and put
 
> them into the un-allocated bucket.  Taking away one long talk
from  
> each category would give us (27 Longs, 1 Main Stage, 10 Tutorials)
 
> in un-allocated.  The problem with this approach is we would
have to  
> reach consensus on 38 slots which would take a *lot *more work.
> That is not the only solution, I am open to any proposals, but my
 
> vote would be to leave things as they are.  Let me know what
you  
> think.
> +1 to accept the categories as they are
> -1 to try and change the allocations to a better balance.
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> Schaefer, Doug wrote:
>> I knew that would get an LOL out of Mike ;)
>> Well, the valley is also a hotbed of embedded and Embedded Systems
 
>> Conference can attest to. And we actually get good attendence
to  
>> Eclipse talks there, when we can get them. I think we can get
these  
>> guys to come to EclipseCon if we have a good program for them.
But  
>> I guess that's our job to figure out.
>> Doug.
>>
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>>    *| *Where is Eclipse headed? I'd bet that's harder
to answer than
>>    you think, and I'm not sure there's any one individual
who would
>>    know, except for maybe Mike.
>>
>>
>>    I literally LOL'd on that one. I have guesses on
where it's
>>    heading. Perhaps my guesses are a little better informed
than
>>    yours, but they're still guesses.
>>
>>
>>    Communities don't head in a particular direction.
They evolve.
>>    Evolution is hard to predict J
>>
>>
>>    *|* Interestingly enough, I find ESE has a much higher
embedded
>>    attendance percentage than EclipseCon. How does that
happen?  
>> Culture?
>>
>>    *|* Demographics? Awesome recruiting by Ralph?
>>
>>
>>    It is partially location and demographics. The Stuttgart
area is
>>    very automotive-driven. My observation is also that
small software
>>    companies in Europe are much more likely to be focused
on systems
>>    engineering than enterprise. I think this is partially
because of
>>    the large number of systems engineering companies
in Europe.
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