yeah, it is hard to get these allocations right. One approach is to
treat the current numbers as guidelines/current thinking. With the
global focus on having really great talks, there is no point, for
example, in accepting mediocre talks just because well ahead time we
thought it would be good to have N hours of topic T.
Jeff
Ed Merks wrote:
Kevin,
I agree with some of the concerns about allocations. But I know that
the reporting newsgroup has among the highest traffic of all the
newsgroups while SOA and TPTP seem to generate only a trickle. I'm not
sure that's a reflective of how many folks would turn out for related
talks though. Chris and I did a committer track talk last year and the
turnout was quite small. If slots are in short supply, ones focused on
technical material seem to be a better use, in my opinion. I also
agree with you about the business thing, but I wonder about the
conference audience itself. For example, I imagine that Eclipse World
would have a much larger draw to a business track focus while
EclipseCon has a much smaller business crowd to draw on. I have no
real factual basis for that comment though. Perhaps we've done surveys
about the demographics of the audience? There's no point in having
business-focused talks if the geeks stay away in droves. I get the
sense that C++ is extremely popular (again from the newsgroup traffic)
but I wonder about it being equal to that of Java. At the same time,
is there all that much to say about Java that hasn't been said?
I suppose that for any of these things, if the slots are really over
allocated, that will become clear by the number of quality submissions;
unused slots will be obviously redistributed...
Kevin McGuire wrote:
- I'm happy with Platform ext
and Platform
int.
- I like the broad
categorizations.
- The overall ext splits seems
good
- 8hrs seems a lot for
Reporting
which
is just one specific area (e.g. compared to SOA at 9hr which could be
massive).
Same comment for Test and Performance at 10.
- Note sure what happens in
8hrs
for committer
and contributor, seems high.
- Meanwhile, business and
industry seems
under represented at mere 3hrs, which could be quite broad. Eclipse
is only successful if it can be applied commercially (so we can all
continue
to get paid :>). I'm thinking things like success stories or
challenges
in building commercial Eclipse based applications, industry comparisons
and trends, etc. Is the issue here of audience, or that we tend not to
get submissions in this area?
Overall happy, the only one I
feel at
all strongly about is Business and Industry.
Kevin
All,
I think we reached consensus that it would be a good idea to have a
simplified
version of the external description of the EclipseCon categories. I
have re-worked the category descriptions a bit and filled in some
misses
from the first round. The re-worked categories are up on the spread-sheet
plus I have just copied them into the email for your convenience.
At this point, I just want to work with total hours of presentation
time,
once we get agreement that the categories are correctly named and we
have
the allocations appropriately balanced, I will take a stab at the
Tutorial,
Long, Main Stage, and Short Talk allocations. If you feel your
category
is not getting appropriate representation, now is the time to speak up.
NOTE: I added 8 hours to the total to take in account the addition of
the
Linux DevCon
Additional questions:
1) Do the External Category Descriptions (first column in Bold)
make sense?
2) Do we have the right balance between the various External Categories?
3) Did I miss any internal categories?
4) Do the internal category names make sense?
5) Is the balance good for the internal categories?
Finally, I wanted to share a personal milestone with all of you. Today
was our last big "First Day Of School". Both of my kids,
Sam (pre-k) and Louise (1st grade) are now in school. Like
most proud parents we had to take a picture, nice photo except for the
goon in the blue shirt.
scott
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