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RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Congratulations, and a few debriefing notes.

I was going to create my own reply but I ended up agreeing with everything DougG said.
 
My personal favs:
- Free tutorials. Who would have thought 35 people would want to sit through a CDT build tutorial. It set off the right tone for the week. I'm finding that EclipseCon is now more a working technical conference, like really a big Summit, than a go see what's happening show, which is the way it should be.
- Voting. I saw some really bad talks and I was glad to be able to voice that with a -1. Of course most of the others were really good.
- Exhibits. Much more buzz this year. Which is important for the guys who are paying the bills.
 
Things we still need to work on:
- User focus versus ISV focus. The traditional debate in Eclipse carries on into EclipseCon. I ran into very few CDT users but a ton of ISVs leveraging CDT. Good/Bad? Not sure.
 
Thanks to DougG, Bjorn, et al for the great week.
DougS
 

From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:00 PM
To: Eclipsecon Program Committee list
Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Congratulations,and a few debriefing notes.

Hi David and PC,

 

I’ve been meaning to send out a follow up email, too. I was sick the week after EclipseCon, and then work kicked in hard.

 

I echo the collective congratulations to the group. EclipseCon was a great success. I’m looking forward to supporting Scott as he works to top this year!

 

Here is the feedback I sent to Bjorn right after the conference.

 

Doug G

 

 

 

Presentations / Format / Misc

·         USB sync station was a great idea!

·         I heard lots of requests for a “single download” from eclipsecon.org to grab everything posted late. Can you implement that?

·         It was a _great_ idea to have a single price and give people access to the tutorials. I heard many people say that they couldn’t believe the attendance in their tutorial.

·         The Power Up lounge was too small! It was always packed. Maybe we need one upstairs and one downstairs.

·         I liked the focus on more short talks. We definitely need to repeat that. Clearly it didn’t hurt attendance.

·         I wonder if we could tag talks as User or Developer focused. It seems like we tried this one year.

·         How about setting up some electronic announcement boards (big flat-panels that are updated with information)? I think it would add to the dynamic vibe.

·         I really liked the “other events”. I did the running every day, and it was great.

 

Voting

·         I liked the +1/-1 system. I heard a few folks say that they’d like to have a 0 vote (ambivalent about talk, talk didn’t cover the material they were interested in, etc.). I’m not so sure, though. Forcing people to make a decision is a good idea, although I think more people just vote +1 if they’re ambivalent.

·         Having the door monitors take a rough attendance would be really nice. For some the larger talks (e4 was packed…as big as the keynote itself), it won’t be possible. But it would be a second indicator of attendance behind the voting.

·         Give away more prizes with the voting. Maybe 10 prizes or something. That will increase the voting. They don’t all have to be pricey.

 

Prizes and Games

·         Awesome. People love to win stuff. I really liked the card game, although I wasn’t clear when the winning hands were going to be picked.

·         Add even more swag. I keep trying to get Ian to do something interesting, like stuff that lights up. (That’s my personal swag weakness.)

·         People didn’t like the bag inserts. They went straight into the trash, except for the ones that had prize entries. I think that’s the difference between exhibitor attendees and technical program attendees. I don’t have much data on this though.

 

Show Floor

·         The free exhibit passes were a very good idea. The exhibit floor seemed to have a lot more energy. There were more giveaways, and the folks from Wind commented on how busy they were. This is the first show where the field people from Wind have reported a positive show floor experience.

·         I actually think we should grow the show floor part of the conference. We need to attract more non-techies to EclipseCon in order to spread the word on eclipse products. If companies think they’re going to generate leads, they’ll put even more effort (and money) into the conference. Donald is up to the task!

·         Developer Days seemed like a good idea, too, although I wasn’t able to attend.

 

Scheduling

·         Still not quite right. I think my scheduling algorithm was good, but we need a better way to not overlap the popular talks.

·         I stand by my grouping of related shorts. Using embedded-related shorts as an example, I had several people come up to me and indicate how surprised they were at the embedded content this year. The truth is that it wasn’t much more than last year, but grouping them together created the illusion of more content.

·         I know it’s unlikely we’d get the community participation, but having the attendees list all the talks that they’d like to attend and feeding that into our schedule algorithm to minimize overlap would be an interesting experiment.

·         In lieu of this, I think the PC chair needs to get a better review of the schedule from the Category Leads. We just need some way of flagging when popular talks are overlapping. Perhaps if the Category Leads could indicate which talks they think are most popular.

 

Coding Camp

·         I didn’t attend, but I talked to a few folks about it. I don’t think there was much coding going on. Chris A suggested that we try to schedule project meetings more formally to better use of the space.

·         It felt disconnected from the rest of the conference, as does pretty much anything on the Great America side of the building. Not much we can do about that.

 

Wireless

·         It blows my mind how well that works. It works better that most corporate networks I’ve used.

·         I’d really like to learn more about how they set that up, just for education.

 

Keynotes

·         I’ve blogged about the content. In general, I was pretty happy with them.

·         Continued funding for speakers will be key to maintaining the caliber of the keynotes.

 

Food

·         Tasty as usual. I didn’t like the desserts, but I’m a simple man…dark chocolate ice cream or mousse.

·         More soft drinks though. I need to support my habit. J (I say this to you every year. It must be expensive.)

·         How about some fruit in the morning?

·         I had a couple of folks thank me for the quality of the vegetarian meals. I told them I’d pass it on.

 

Overall, this was my favorite EclipseCon so far. I’m not sure if it’s just because I was so involved or whether it was better this year. My exposure in the community has increased quite a bit over the past year, and I found myself meeting with a lot more people this time than ever before. I think there is a chance we’re going to outgrow this conference space sometime in the future, unless we (you) decide that we can use the hotel meeting rooms, too. Bottom line, if the projects themselves keep growing, you’re going to need more parallel space.

 

 

From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David M Williams
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:00 AM
To: Eclipsecon Program Committee list
Subject: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Congratulations,and a few debriefing notes.

 


Doug. and fellow Program Committee members,

Congratulations on yet another great EclipseCon. It already seems too far in the past. :)

I thought I'd list here some of the feed back I heard after EclipseCon, from probing WTP developers ... mostly as presenters, but partially as attendees
just so we (or, future Program Committee) can better remember next year. I know for myself, I'll probably forget I even wrote it here ... but, maybe someone will remember. I'd be interested in hearing if there's any other overall general thoughts to conclude this years Program Committee? Any other feedback on Webtools category, for example.

  • Fee-less tutorials was a great idea and helped improve attendance .... and, the attendees were still interested and engaged (not just lurking "because it's free").
  • Absolutely should have power strips for attendees for all tutorials.
  • The plus or minus evaluation system was good.
  • Invited guests (as whole) were not as good as last year's (informal impression, as a whole).
  • hack-a-thon -- did anyone attend?-- perhaps not well publicized?
  • The USB key with Ganymede level of code and pre-reqs and having the tutorial materials there helped greatly ... at least, for the tutorials :)  Few tutorial attendees came "all set up", but when they each had a USB key, they could get going quickly.  Suggested to have more and easier (and, quicker?) replication ports available next year.


Webtools category specific feedback:

  • Webtools uncovered: good attendance. no minus ones.
  • Webtools adopted: not as heavily attended as in the past (could/should consolidate next year, have less time allotted to "extending" WTP). Seems to confirm the perception that perhaps the audience at EclipseCon is changing ... more users, than adopters (or, maybe just so many adopters, that many of them are also users :)

Thanks again!


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