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IMHO the Harmony talk can go in either Java or OSGi. Modularity in Java is of increasing importance with at least 4 JSRs active in the area including 2 related to OSGi technologies. In the end I personally feel it is an important topic to have but well, I'm biased and there are lots of important topics. I'm sure that neither the presenter or the audience will particuarly care which track it falls in. :-) Perhaps we should have a global list of pending talks so we can better allocate any newly available slots?
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Ok, I am now done with the Java track (at last).
I accepted
[3812] Java 5.0: A developer experience
[3650] The Fine Art of Reverse Engineering
Declined all but:
[3825] Threads, java.util.concurrent and Eclipse Jobs: problems and
solutions
[3768] Apache Harmony: Developing the Java platform with Eclipse
These 2 are on the waiting list, in case extra slots are allocated.
Now, the later [3768] should probably be migrated in the OSGi track, based
on the information below from Tim Ellison. Can someone from the OSGi track
accept it in its queue ?
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Actually, I checked last year's program, and there was already a long talk
on Harmony. Discussing with author (Tim Ellison), it appears that many
things have evolved in Harmony, and the presentation would actually focus
more on focus on the runtime modularity. They have an OSGi manager, that is
embedded in the VM, to support creating multiple bootstrap classloaders for
bundles comprising the JRE itself.
Thus I think for user experience slot, I'd rather accept the
[3812] Java 5.0: A developer experience
from EMF lead (Ed Merks).
I suspect the Harmony talk would provide more value in the OSGi track, if
some more room is made there (as Richard mentionned in previous note).
So this would mean accepting:
> [3812] Java 5.0: A developer experience
> [3650] The Fine Art of Reverse Engineering
And keeping on the waiting list (the good 5th):
> [3825] Threads, java.util.concurrent and Eclipse Jobs: problems and
solutions
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This sounds good to me, Philippe. I'd leave the one you'd consider a good
5th unresolved for now, as we'll likely have room after we finish panels
and
see how short talks turn out (110 slots with 45 submissions so far and 4
days to go).
Thanks,
Rich
On 1/11/07 9:41 AM, "Philippe P Mulet" <philippe_mulet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> For the Java track, I think the suggested choices are not optimal, since
we
> would end up with no talk about user experience.
> Ideally, I think the distribution of Java presentations should look like.
>
> 1. one talk on Java in general
> 2. one talk on JDT
> 3. one talk on user experience with Eclipse Java tools
> 4. one talk on other topic (tooling or dev practices)
>
> We have already accepted submissions for (1) and (2) (see below with
> '====>' prefix).
>
> 1. one talk on Java in general
> =======>[3727] Java 7 Language Features
> [3825] Threads, java.util.concurrent and Eclipse Jobs: problems and
> solutions
> 2. one talk on Eclipse JDT
> =======>[3786] Unleash the Power of Refactorings in your Products!
> 3. one talk on user experience
> [3768] Apache Harmony: Developing the Java platform with Eclipse
> [3812] Java 5.0: A developer experience
> [3888] Story from the Trenches: Migrating from C++ to Eclipse
> 4. one talk on tooling topic or dev practices
> [3650] The Fine Art of Reverse Engineering
> [3723] Runtime monitoring and adaptation of applications from
Eclipse
>
> To me, it looks that we should pick one talk for (3) and one for (4).
> My personal inclination would be respectively: [3768] and [3650].
> 3768 - because Harmony is an interesting exercize which brings together
> Eclipse JDT and OSGi bundles.
> 3650 - not quite sure it is in the right track, but it has the most
votes.
> For 3825, I think it is interesting too, but I suspect it has little to
do
> with Eclipse per se, and we already have one submission about Java in
> general (Java7) which I believe is more important. If we had one more
slot
> in Java track, then yes I would agree with this one, since the speaker is
a
> good one.
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> Any thoughts?
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> The slot below makes 4 for OSGi, not 3. The sooner we can resolve Java,
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> On 1/7/07 8:39 PM, "Jeff McAffer" <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Rich wrote on 01/07/2007 04:41:43 PM:
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>> As we’re already past our deadline and soon need to start reviewing
>
>> short talks and demos, I plan to do the following in order to
> finish
>> up our long talk & panel selections and schedule rooms (speak now
> if
>> you object, or better, resolve your tracks asap :)
>>
>> Panels:
>
>> 1. Reclaim the panel slots from C++, Reporting, RCP, and Tools, as
>> they have no submissions.
>
> In RCP we are still trying to come up with a panel that touches on
> aspects of the talks that could not be accepted.
>
>> 2. Allocate one to Fundamentals and accept both of its submissions
> -
>> 3757: What sucks about Eclipse (2 PC votes, 1 community vote) &
>> 3891: How we learned to stop worrying and love Eclipse UA (1 PC
>> vote, 16 community votes)
>> 3. Accept OSGi panel 3900: What does the future hold for OSGi? (2
> PC
>> votes, 4 community votes)
>
> I believe that Peter has been working on creating an OSGi panel
from
> some rejected talks...
>
>> 4. Accept Web panel 3747: What does Eclipse need to do to become
> the
>> IDE for AJAX?
>> 5. Decline the rest. This gives us 10 panels overall, and frees up
>
>> some space we may need on Thursday due to a potential room
> conflict.
>>
>> Long Talks:
>
>> 1. In the Java track, accept 3650: The fine art of reverse
>> engineering (3 PC votes, 1 community vote) & 3825: Threads, java.
>> util.concurrent and Eclipse Jobs: problems and solutions (1 PC
> vote,
>> 2 community votes).
>> 2. In the OSGi track, accept 3705: Using OSGi back-end system for
>> the purpose of enterprise management of Eclipse IDEs
>
> It would be great if we could rustle up an additional slot for
OSGi.
> There is lots of stuff to talk about and currently only 3 slots
> including the extra one mentioned here.
>
>> 3. In the RCP track, accept 3628: Rich client platforms: Eclipse
> RCP
>> compared with NetBeans Platform (2 PC votes, 13 community votes);
>> 3816: How to make your RCP application NOT look like Eclipse (1 PC
>> vote, 4 community votes)
>
> The RCP track subcommittee is still reviewing and debating. We'll
> resolve in the next couple days.
>
>> 4. In the SOA track, accept 3882: STP Components (2 PC votes);
> 3887:
>> From modeling to execution in the enterprise – using BPMN and BPEL
>> (2 PC votes)
>> 5. In the Web track, accept 3869: XML Development Tools in Eclipse
>> WTP and beyond (1 PC vote, 1 community vote)
>> 6. Decline the rest. This gives us 67 with another one (or two)
>> coming to Mike’s Director’s Choice track
>
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