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If we add another one from WTP, my suggestion would be 3634, which is about extending XML editors. Here’s the abstract:

 

This tutorial will teach participants how to extend the XML Editor and other source editors provided in WTP. Topics will cover customizing for your own special forms of content to provide a richer editing experiences for your users, such as integrating with outline pages, property sheets, reuse within multi-page editors, adding as-you-type validation, and providing Snippets view items. In addition to extending the UI, we'll show examples of how to get and modify the DOM associated with our frameworks in WTP. The focus will be on XML, but we'll make some mention of other languages, too. This tutorial will include coding examples that involve the XML and SSE components, but that apply equally well to commercial products such as IBM Rational Application Developer. We will pick a specific type of XML, such as a web deployment descriptor, and then add specific functionality for it.

 

There are 3 others as well, on headless use of WTP (3677), extending ATF (3576), and integrating AJAX and JSF with Ajax4JSF (an open source extension to JSF by Exadel, 3625).

 

Bjorn or Ian would be able to access attendee #s if we want to decide based on the popularity of the debugger tutorial at last year’s conference; otherwise, I would look to this forum for consensus on how to utilize the slot. I can see the value of both, and if debugging is consistently important as a draw, then late or not it may be critical.

 


From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff McAffer
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Ok so my vote would be to use the mashup slot on
Fundamentals
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3674        Building Commercial-Quality Eclipse Plug-Ins

As for the debug one in Java, I am mixed.  That submission is coming very late and it feels a little funny to have it displace viable/desirable submissions that came on time (the community may observe and object to this).  If we can argue that it is needed to fill out an area that has a coverage hole that's great but it needs to be weighed against the other holes that, for example, WTP is looking to fill.  

Tim, what ones are you looking to add in the Web track?

Jeff


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Thanks, Jeff.

If the Java track accepts the shortened Debug tutorial (3701), they will be set.

In Fundamentals, I’m fine with keeping the top 3 listed below (they all have majority votes).

With Legos moving to a long talk, and with the Maven track from the Java track being preferred, we can accept the DITA talk in Mashup, leaving us with 2 extra allocations.

It seems we agreed the server side Eclipse tutorial (3607) is desirable, so it takes one, if no one objects.

So if my math is correct, we’re down to one leftover and a number of options, including Jeff’s list below and Tim’s request from Web Development.  And for some reason, I feel Bjorn may have another last minute recommendation :)

Best,
Rich



On 11/15/06 1:52 PM, "Jeff McAffer" <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Below is a summary of various tracks that seem to be in flux.  Some tracks have extra while others not enough.  So given this, I propose slot reallocation as follows (details below):
Mashup 1 => OSGi
Mashup 1 => Fundamentals
Java 1 => Java, RCP, ????  (we can debate the merits of the various remaining proposals)

Jeff


Fundamentals +1

Long
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3635        PDE Build and build clinic
       - combine this one with Gunnar's (
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3583).  
       - I believe Pascal has talked to Gunnar about joining forces but not sure if actual arrangements have been made.
Short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3626        Eclipse APIs and Java 5
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3645        Fundamentals of Eclipse Plug-in Development

Additional short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3674        Building Commercial-Quality Eclipse Plug-Ins
      - I have had some interaction with Eric and Dan. They are willing to cut down to a short tutorial.

RCP +1

Long
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3667        Developing Eclipse Rich-Client Applications

Short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3585        RCP Development Using the Workbench and JFace
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3655        Intro Framework: Making a Good First Impression
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3664        UI Forms: I can't believe it's not browser

Additional short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3648        Creating Enterprise Business Applications Using Eclipse RCP
       - not sure why this has no votes...
       - might make a good long talk?

OSGi +1

Long
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3630        SOBA

Short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3632        Spring

Additional short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3607        Server side
       - this is hot imho

Java -1

Short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3639        Maven
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3582        SpoonJDT
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3618         Annotations
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3693        JDT fundamentals
One extra in this track but there is a late breaking debug submission...

Mashups -2

Short
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3672        DITA

Two extra here if we recast the Lego submission as a long talk (which I think is reasonable btw)


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