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[] A new medium for discussions among all committers

Dear committers,
I'm excited to present you a new medium for
open discussions among all committers!
After working on this [1] in the best spirit of openness and
transparency, it's not become my original suggestion, but
we decided to use the existing
mailing list that you all know, and make it moderated.
What does that mean?
  • We have set up some Guidelines [2] for the use of this list,
    which I highly recommend to read. These are also available
    from the Development Resources Wiki ("Reaching Out"). 
  • The Guidelines are not meant as censorship, but as
    a tool to make the list really productive and encourage
    all of you to actually use it
    -- without having to be afraid
    that it will mail-bomb people and scare them away.
  • Moderators ensure that the Guidelines are obeyed. All
    moderation must be justified by the Guidelines (no
    shutting up unwanted contents without a transparent
The most important guideline, I think, is that all inquiries on
the mailing list must use an alternate
return channel for feedback and discussions. Bugzilla is
preferred, but any other medium (mailinglist, newsgroup, forum,
survey...) is also possible. This ensures that the committers
mailing list itself remains low-traffic and useful while everybody
can choose to opt-in on a discussion or not.
We anticipate that these guidelines will make the committers
mailing list especially useful for questions like "has anybody
else already..." or "what other projects deal with...",
which are not specific to a project or technology represented
elsewhere. Please refer to the Guidelines for where to turn
with other kinds of questions.
As another goodie to better handle potentially increased
incoming traffic, Denis has made it possible for every
committer to switch the list to digest mode via the list
web interface [3].
I'm hoping that these changes will benefit all of us, and
I'd like to encourage all of you again to really make use of
this new medium.
I'd like to thank all the great people who've helped making this
happen, especially Guillaume for the awsome survey, Denis
for the idea and implementation, Ed and Karl for controversive  
yet very professional discussions,
and Dave, John and Gunnar
for helpful insights and comments.
Your initial moderators are Denis Roy (Eclipse Foundation),
John Arthorne (IBM), and Ed Merks (Macro Modeling) for the
Eastern time zone, as well as Martin Oberhuber (Wind River)
for the European time zone. We'd appreciate volunteers to
moderate for the Asia/Pacific and US/Western time zones,
if you are interested please comment on the bug[1].
As a return channel for this message (in line with the Guidelines),
please post comments on the bug[1].
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

From: [] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:13 PM
To: Guillaume Chatelet;
Subject: RE: [] [Survey] What is appropriate use ofthislist ?

After bringing this up at today's Architecture Council Meeting [1],
and in line with the tendency seen in the Survey [2], I have requested
creation of a new mailing list via bugzilla [3]:
Interested parties may follow bug 250320 [3].
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

From: [] On Behalf Of Guillaume Chatelet
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:04 AM
Subject: [] [Survey] What is appropriate use of thislist ?

Dear committers,

I created this site to sum up the opinions of those of you who took time to express themselves about "What is appropriate use of this list ?"

On this site, you will find the survey (still active so feel free to submit), and an embedded version of this spreadsheet ( with charts**, because we love charts as much as screenshots : )

For the moment 60 people have answered : about 6.5% of this list - which is not very representative ( I had to point this out ).

I will also add the additionnal proposals in a near future.

Kind regards,
PS** : Charts are in Flash, I'll also add pictures version to let anyone view them.
PPS : I created a new thread to be sure to let everyone participate ( even people who filtered the previous conversations )

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