Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Serious issue with Eclipse and me

["Torkild U. Resheim" <torkildr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Please do not install the beta/GM on your workstations unless you are prepared to face the consequences ;) Well, actually I’m doing pretty good all thanks to the «Quick Access», I rarely used the menu anyway. But for RCP applications without this feature we do have a problem.

I believe we are plenty of people looking into it and there are quite a few that can reproduce the issue. I guess the question is whether or not one is inclined to start digging into the Eclipse launcher executable, which I think is the culprit. I might be wrong, but in any case it appears we’re talking about some delicate OS/UI thing.

I can try to sum up the current situation:

* Menus are disabled on macOS 10.13 when running Eclipse Platform based applications
* Plain SWT applications are not affected
* This has only happened when running on real hardware
* Using VirtualBox and VMWare we have been unsuccessful reproducing the issue
* But on one i5 based MacBook Pro it could not be reproduced (Martin O.)
* We have tried various combinations of Java installations, but that appears unrelated
* When the native launcher (eclipse.exe) is omitted, the problem does not occur

Best regards,
Torkild


> 18. sep. 2017 kl. 19:12 skrev Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> Hey!
> 
> Could try on real hardware tomorrow, if that helps, but sounds like some folks are already looking into this. Is that right?
> Sounds like a super major issue if this happens on real hardware running macOS High Sierra… :-(
> 
> Cheers,
> -Martin
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 18.09.2017 um 19:05 schrieb Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>> 
>> Martin,
>> 
>> the problem does not appear on virtual boxes. You would need to test on "real" hardware.
>> 
>> Dani
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From:        Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To:        "eclipse.org-architecture-council" <eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date:        18.09.2017 18:48
>> Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Serious issue with Eclipse and menus on macOS 10.13
>> Sent by:        eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey!
>> 
>> I tested this today, too. I am running VMware Fusion (8.5.8) and have macOS High Sierra Build 17A362a (GM candidate build) installed.
>> I DO NOT see the described issues. Tested Eclipse Oxygen.1RC4 (Java EPP) as well as STS ci builds.
>> 
>> What version of macOS High Sierra do you use, Torkild?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> -Martin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 17.09.2017 um 20:16 schrieb Torkild U. Resheim <torkildr@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> 
>>> Ed,
>>> 
>>> Yes, this appears to be the same problem. I used VMWare Fusion and the rescue partition to create a virtual machine with 10.12 – which I then upgraded to the various betas. I don’t know of any other means.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Torkild
>>>> 17. sep. 2017 kl. 08:22 skrev Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> 
>>>> Torkild,
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think the following problem reported in the newcomers forum is an example of this problem:
>>>> 
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.eclipse.org_forums_index.php_mv_msg_1088892_1772827_-23msg-5F1772827&d=DwIGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=1UITCR5rxUZHSFczvfaNFK4ymEbEiccRX7VKchpqz0Y&m=OKXkGWHkrorNXk5Qy5i_fnrgZL_4q1DRqDMZcdx37NI&s=Z3aV8rWWoMMBg4y0kd6tAzswOvOX3S-4xSNBshqT_5w&e=
>>>> 
>>>> How can one install a virtual machine with this version of MacOS to test it?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ed
>>> 
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