Here's a (somewhat late) email about this workshop that we're putting
together. If anyone from your projects or companies is relevant and
interested in attending, please forward this to them. We have quite a
few interested people already (20-30), so numbers is not the issue, so
only invite people if they are interested, relevant, and will submit a
position paper. P.S. Many of the relevant people might already have
received their own copy of this email (and even the previous email) ,
but I wanted to make sure that anyone I missed would be found by you
First of all,
receiving this email because you are in one of three groups: (1)
planning to attend, (2) thinking of attending, (3) this is the first
time you've heard about it.
Disorganized But Very Useful"
Eclipse Languages Symposium
The symposium will be held October 27th and 28th at the QNX
headquarters at 175
Terence Matthews Crescent, Kanata, ON, Canada. There is no
registration fee for this workshop which also means that you're
responsible for your own transportation and accommodation. Sharon (the
Eclipse administrator and Ottawa resident) suggests these hotels:
They are all about 10-15 minutes by car from QNX.
We will begin each day at 8:30am. Not everyone can attend both days
(some people are in the CDT workshop that overlaps by a day; some
people have early flights out on Friday), but we'll do the best we can.
We will have a group dinner outing Thursday evening.
We'll run the workshop in the LAWST
style. This means that all attendees must submit a position paper. No
paper; no attendance; no exceptions (even Mike and I will write
position papers). The position paper should be on one of the four
The intent of requiring a position paper is to (1) have everyone better
prepare by writing – or at least outlining – a paper and reading all
the other papers prior to a session, and (2) frankly to filter out the
idly curious. These people are not unwelcome, but especially when they
dilute the discussion or occupy limited seats then their attendance
does not have high priority. The idea is to have brief position papers
or longer, more developed papers to help each of us lead a group-wide
discussion. In the most recent LAWST workshop session, several papers
were only one or two pages long, and the longest was about 25 pages.
The flavor is different than traditional conferences, with mostly
one-way communication to a large group. These workshop sessions are
more like small group peer reviews with lots of impromptu brainstorming.
- Eclipse Language Support for dynamically typed languages (Perl,
Tcl, Python, PHP, Ruby,etc).
- Support for writing Eclipse plug-ins in dynamically typed
languages (Python, Ruby, Tcl, etc).
- Generic compiled language debugging infrastructure and
- Current state and future of the text and document model in Eclipse
The position papers are all distributed (email) in advance. The papers
will be grouped into approximately six sessions. Not all papers will be
included (there might just not be a logical place). Each session will
start with presentations by the select authors.
Not slick powerpoint presentations, but more of an interactive talk:
the author will describe his or her experiences, ideas, difficulties,
and so on. A couple powerpoint slides or, better yet, a demo, are
acceptable, but the key here is that this is a workshop - an
interactive conversation - not a lecture. In general, the talk should
be about successes and future
successes, but instructive failures are also welcome. After the war
stories, there is
general discussion between the audience and the speakers - the key
feature of the discussion is that it stays focused on the speakers'
points and does not devolve into each audience member giving a short
speech about his or her own ideas.
The goal is to get a
group of smart engineers and researchers together for two days to talk
about, and plan the future of, language support in Eclipse. The
symposium will be a very interactive workshop - not a conference with
formal papers and lots of bored listeners reading email on their
The position papers need to be emailed to me by
Friday, October 14th.
The CDT Workshop
Note that QNX is hosting the CDT workshop Tue-Wed-Thurs at the same
location. In fact, it is QNX's generosity with their space that allows
this Languages Workshop to occur. The key thing to remember is that
the CDT Workshop (Tue-Wed-Thurs) is separate from the Languages
Workshop (Thurs-Fri). They are co-located to take advantage of many of
your travel plans, but they are separate events. I'm not organizing
the CDT Workshop; I am organizing the Languages Workshop.
To attend the Languages Workshop,
submit a position paper.
I look forward to reading your position paper in two weeks, and to
seeing you in Ottawa in a month.